and of course, for the 'online DRC' - it doesnt always have to be MxN,
since the operation only has to be on what is changing. Batch DRC, well
that is an MxN problem, but can be spun into multi threads if it takes too
long. Altium spun the batch DRC (the one you run just before you send it
Hi James. Yeah I agree text based rule core is a fine way of representing
it.
What we will find is that as the rule base grows, the online DRC functions
will start chewing considerable processor resources- it will likely need to
be spun out into another low priority thread.
Maybe the plain
But... for a large design we'd end up with pages and pages of rules. Which
is fine if they are generally hidden / encapsulated by the user.
I'm all for the basis of the rule sytsem being all text DRC. But- I
already have pages of rules with my basic experiments with Kicad. I have
Have you guys looked how Altium does with with Xsignals ?
anyone looked at my posts about this in the kicad forum.?
it's a pretty good template.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 09:34, Jon Evans wrote:
> > The question is which groups of geometry items to show the total length
> for in the dialog - do
Hi Mooneer
wow that list of requirements and resposibilities reads like a
USD$250,000/year job. or more.
Perhaps it can be done by someone (a volunteer) willing to manage a few
volunteer contractors ? I'm happy to manage and coordinate as a volunteer.
On 9/02/2024 10:19 am, Mooneer
Appreciate the Wayland points. Years ago Wayland was the next cool thing
but seems to not have gone far ? NVidia compatibility ? I am 100% AMD shop
here- AMD Ryzen, Radeon graphics. I will never buy another Intel box after
Intel dropped the Edision project 2 years after after promising
Thanks for the input. OK, Debian it is. I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu. too
much GUI fluff.
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down, it only sends the token tag to
the decoder to look up and reproduce.
IE a form of dynamic lookup table. There must be a name for doing this
in computer science ???
glen
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Hi Tomas
Hi Tomas
"codec2 + zip makes for even smaller files"
implying that there is still redundancy to remove in the codec2 encoded voice
files
That sounds like low hanging fruit to pick.
I guess though that is across a large number of frames (an audio book), where
there may be redundancy /
d code etc. Is this your driving point ?
regards
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On 14/12/2023 8:41 pm, Sebastien F4GRX wrote:
Hello,
I agree reference code is important as a known-good base to help test
the compliance of third party implementations, but code NEVER has been
equivalent to a specificati
I support reference C code
For a developer who needs to implement an algorthm on their platform,
the reference C code (RCC) provides ability to numerically test bench
their platform code (essential) , and provides a well broken down
algorithm method in the form of C code (essential) .
In
Hi Adrian, cheers.
Yeah thinking that the most popular installed environment would be the
one with the dependences well sorted, searching for this on google, I
couldnt find a consistent answer.LOL I've always run XFCE
seems to have the smallest installed footprint but of course
On Linux Debian, you get the option of XFCE, gnome, KDE, cinnamon, MATE,
LXDE, and more
I ask what is the most SUITED desktop environment for new installs to
support the FreeDV GUI code ?
glen VK1XX
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Hi Mooneer
thanks for the comments. The FDIV on the ESP32-S3 is very slow I think
80 cycles, but of course one should always use RECIPS and a MUL.
Integer div is a couple of cycles IIRC.
I'll start and see what jams it all up .
regards,
On 21/11/2023 4:01 pm, Mooneer Salem wrote:
Hi
Hi Mooneer
I am preparing to implement FreeDV on an FPGA.
Is there a location in the repo somewhere, or does anyone have ,
anecdotally a feeling of, the major workloads / major consumers of
processor time on the STM32 FreeDV port.
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Just adding to the other two very good replies
My experience with codec2 with STM32F4/F7 At O0, the performance may be
down to 50% of -O2, and also, with O0, its likely the compiler is not
exploiting any hardware speedups as with GCC there are some (invisible)
ties between -O level,
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For isolating noise, (for the purpose of off line analysis) , using ICA
(Independent Component Analysis) , a kind of blind source separation ,
can assist parting out the various noises to assist understanding the
system better . There are some Python primers around for it.
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If you are looking for a reasonably affordable 5 digit high count
(8) DMM, I can recommend the VICHY VC8145
something like about USD160 new.
has RS232
absolute accuracy is surprisingly good, close to my old Keithley. I used
to cal with a mercury cell.
good for looking at up to 8
there.
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just watch out that added gain doesnt cause overload problems.
There are quite alot of strong L band signals around, both in orbit and
terrestrial.
IE band pass filter before amplifier
On 3/03/2022 6:15 pm, jack.davis wrote:
My antenna is active and it uses 5 volts. I tried 2 different
Be aware of power supply noise rejection- or the lack of it.
The 4046 phase comparator etc - they all have VERY LOW almost zilch
power supply noise rejection, IME.
Same with CMOS gate oscillators etc.
ADF4002 is a good chip. , Agreed Bob.
I'm assuming this design is on a multilayer PCB ?
elcome.
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For those of you interested in rolling your own a-la the Brooks Shera
style, which is essentially adigital readout phase detector , these days
, with almost a single chip
with modern microcontrollers you can do better than the Shera hardware,
I describe how I do it :
The modern micros
?
Could I run this board as well with other (e.g. higher) frequencies and
of independent oscillators?
Are there improvements in meantime?
regards,
Arnold, DK2WT
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Larry, Take a look at Brooks Shera's article in QST. you might know
of it.
In my
thru several HP 10811 and 10844 oscillators during that time.
Even though Brooks is SK his GPSDO is still running.
Regards.
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Andy, do you have the PIC and the synthesiser chip data control lines
well buffered/isolated (nice big resistors etc on the data lines ?)
Any sort of current you inject into the synth chip will find its way
onto the output
On 19/02/2022 7:55 pm, Andy Talbot wrote:
A while back I
I have used the switched capacitor type, with direct control over the
switching caps .
We were able to high speed dither the switch settings to get 1/2 and 1/4
and 1/8 steps of the minimum capacitor switch step. This way, we got
high control resolution.
BUT- this only works for requirements
feet, by 1 mm
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ocked loop.
A double balanced mixer with pure sine wave sources is probably the gold
standard
Horses for courses
On 7/02/2022 9:03 pm, m...@vresearch.pt wrote:
Just being rude Glen.
I'm searching for a source document that someone could share. Just that.
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to estimate are multiple of the reference frequency (i.e.
at the input of phase detector).
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I endorse Dave's suggestion (below) .
The resistive divider is simple but slows down the edge rate which may
be undesirable especially if the input isnt a schmitt.
The MOSFET solution is the most appropriate. take a look what is inside
packaged translators... just that.
On 29/01/2022 10:33
and unless you have LOTS of experience, avoid automatic direction
(bidirectional) translators - they are very sensitivie to pullups,
downs etc. I think best avoided unless there is no option. I2C is where
they are useful.
But otherwise, stick to unidirectional level translating as Andrew
hear hear.stick to galvanic isolation or better -
On MF/SW broadcast sites for this we used optically coupled sensors.
The mains supply is simply intensity modulating an opto isolator ( a
pair actually for both sides of the waveform) .. They can with stand a
fair degree of overload and its
and walking pilots are used . DRM is in general transmitted up to 20kHz
bandwidth and more pilots are required.
In DVBT- same power is used but the pilot data is repeated and the demod
averages over multiple periods.
-glen english
On 25/08/2021 12:03 am, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Mon, 2021
I think, based on my profressional experience with the F4 , L4, L, in
battery environments - you would be far better to use an F4 part for
this.
-aggressively down clock it when the full clock speed is unnecessary
You can save a ton of power doing that.
The chip is very good at changing
to encode real time ?
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> Hardware floating point is requ
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On 10/8/20 6:50 am, glen english wrote:
except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity.
On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
Thanks David for the news.
One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency?
Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded
believe it meets the spectral purity
requirements of the Amateur LCD on 2M:
http://www.rowetel.com/?p=7207
and on HF:
http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6317
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On 10/8/20 6:50 am, glen english wrote:
except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity.
On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian
except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity.
On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote:
Thanks David for the news.
One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency?
Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded, but the 23 cm band and 2305-2400 MHz
bands are underutilized
for the 1-4
GHz VCO input (LTC6945 etc)
When I need to get the 5kHz to 100kHz noise down, I'l probably go for
direct multiplication.
73
On 8/1/2020 2:06 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:56:42 +1000
glen english LIST wrote:
- a double-double-double could work, but my
Before I commit the soldering iron, can anyone share their sub-harmonic
injection locking experiences ?
I have to make 393.216 from 49.152 .
Yes, lots of ways I know.
injection locked at 1/8 of the frequency from the decent source.
There wont be any issue of locking to the wrong harmonic,
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You wont attract too many FM people to 700D, LPCnet-C2 can win over
those , at least in terms of voice quality and robustness (compared to
DSTAR, and DMR is really more like CB) , given that LPCnet with a
relatively simple modem can be 12dB ahead of FM. Needs a frequency
hopping radio
Hi Adrian
Good rational points you make.
BTW:AD9361, AD9371, ADRV9008 are all "sub-optimal" (I have to be nice to
my ADI friends) for narrow band work.
too noisy, insufficient dynamic range.
But this new one is worth looking at (I have info on it on NDA)
here is the (public) pre release
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Hi Steve
I did a google and found this :
https://kicad-pcb.org/external-tools/altium2kicad/
On 22/07/2020 23:00, Steve wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:28 AM Tomas Härdin wrote:
So anyone wanting to develop or modify the SM3000 would need to install
two pieces of proprietary software with
VIVADO.
:-) glen
On 22/07/2020 22:26, Tomas Härdin wrote:
sön 2020-07-19 klockan 09:25 +1000 skrev glen english:
I am designing an SM3000, and now is the time for input from users.
(input request below)
[...]
I have chosen the Xilinx Zynq XC7007S hybrid CortexA9 / FPGA . The
single core
Hi All
Thanks for people's time to write very useful input .
Because this forum freetel-codec2 is getting a little polluted by SM3000
stuff,
I have created a new group specifically to handle SM3000 discussions and
dev.
sm3000-freedv-...@groups.io
you can join here :
and careful with your personal options about others
on this list.
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The question is for me, how close are we to getting Mode 2020
running on a top-end Pi, Odroid XX etc.?
As it stands now, Mode 700D runs well on almost any Pi. And putting
one in a small box with USB peripherals is not a problem really.
Alan VK2ZIW
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reflector.
https://groups.io
Just some thoughts...
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in a small box with USB peripherals is not a problem really.
Alan VK2ZIW
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:27:08 +1000, Glen English wrote
I need some comments to drive decisions on part choices for the SM3
My focus is on accessability- being affordable.
Having said that a few dollars saved is poor
I need some comments to drive decisions on part choices for the SM3
My focus is on accessability- being affordable.
Having said that a few dollars saved is poor savings if the new box
cannot meet our forseeable objectives.
The original project leaders are not providing any opinions,
I read in one of the comments in the FreeDV blog-
someone was wondering why FreeDV did better than expected amongst local
noise.
The main reason is that many noises are single carriers. As long as the
level of the interferer does not cause too much AGC action (which would
reduce the SNR of
, 2020, 2:36 PM glen english <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote:
Altium 20.
On 20/07/2020 7:33 am, Steve wrote:
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:35 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote:
On 19/7/20 4:48 pm, glen english wrote:
What I want to achieve is a instant on, plug and play solution with
digital radio /front panel upgrade path.
In the spirit of the SM1000. Turn on and it is ready 1 second later
. Just load the image and no more to do.
This is t
What I want to achieve is a instant on, plug and play solution with
digital radio /front panel upgrade path.
In the spirit of the SM1000. Turn on and it is ready 1 second later .
Just load the image and no more to do.
This is the way to drive uptake and broad usage.
and no issues like Pi
potentially reduce requirements, too.
(BTW, I imagine actually building on the target would be rare. Cross
compiling on a desktop or laptop PC will always be significantly
faster, even taking transfer time into account.)
-Mooneer K6AQ
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:27 PM glen english <mailt
I am designing an SM3000, and now is the time for input from users.
(input request below)
*
Design Goals :
High computational capability : So that our modems and codecs as they
become more advanced, are less constrained by the STM32F4 platform.
Platform to be Linux so that development,
, or
substitute code.
thanks!
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM glen english mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Steve
yep
It didnt take long to find, a few minutes , since, well it seems modems
all have the same type of bugs... if you design modems long enough
, or
it is garbled by the ether.
The value is not really important, just that it be the same BPSK
value, which the decodes to two indexes of the bits rx_uw of value 0:0
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:25 AM Glen English <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote:
anyone going to fix the FreeDV O
anyone going to fix the FreeDV OFDM modem ?
I'll located the bug, the line number etc..
On 16/07/2020 08:31, glen english wrote:
Excellent Alan !
right, like I thought , tx_uw always zeros , and rx_uw goes to zero
because input level falls.
OK David, I am sure you had other ideas
r repeater scene here, there's
no communication on needs. there is still a Yahoo group but none it seems
of the current repeater maintainers ever post or read it.
Test equipment:
I now have an Advantest U3641N the 75 ohm version.
Alan VK2ZIW
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:00:58 +1000, glen english wro
posted here for the benefit of all the non-RF people :
Hi Alan. OK roger all that. as you know, duplexors, cavity filters, bla
bla are my home game...
if you have interaction problems between them the cable lengths are
wrong between the filters.
IE the coupling is wrong.
with a single
0 rx_uw ; 100101
SYN: 2 5 1 6 ; tx_uw 00 rx_uw ; 0010111010
state: Rx Maybe UnSync peak: 254 sync: 0 SNR: -8.8
triggered: 1 recordany: 0 rxDataCnt 1988 ncodec 0
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*On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:45:24 +1000, glen english wrote*
> well, looks OK, looks like
rxDataCnt 1428 ncodec 0*
No more SYN: n n n n messages.
*Over to you...*
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> Alan, please be sure to keep correct subject line.
> Right. ofdm.c
> voidofdm_sync_state_machine(structOFDM *ofdm, uint8_t*rx_uw)
>
Alan, please be sure to keep correct subject line.
Right. ofdm.c
voidofdm_sync_state_machine(structOFDM *ofdm, uint8_t*rx_uw)
there are two synced states, synced (ongoing) and trial sync (when
sync is getting established for the first time- checking if this is real
sync or bogus sync due to
ble
> to measure BER, but you'll be able to see if the LDPC decoder is
> converging, and if the demod is falling over in the fast ALC condition.
>
> - David
>
> On 14/7/20 5:09 pm, glen english wrote:
> > OK, in addition to my actual recordings,
> >
> > that would be using :
Debian Buster GUEST , in VM (VMWARE) on windows 64 bit host
I get TX audio to radio outbuffer empty counter running mad and
obviously audio gaps in TX
happens with PCIe sound or USB sound.
changing base priorities niceness etc no improvement.
(unless freeDV is overriding something I need
ding profile running with the command line
version of the modem.
Cheers,
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hi David
further to my previous email (pre requisite) :
perhaps something is mismatched for the application here. :
I have not been looking for long , but there are not many places where
there is amplitude calcs and a time constant.
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ofdm.c
/* update mean amplitude
Hi David
AGC questions.
We had the WIA broadcast running all weekend on 50.25 in 700D and 2020
in 'berra.
I was mobile around canberra for some of the weekend with FreeDV, with
my laptop and the FT857
Something interesting and unexpected experiences..
When I had the AGC set to SLOW, the
Great resource, thanks David
On our tests, many users were reporting 100ppm error and BER ~ 5%. Even
with athat sample rate error , this is well within the capture of the
OFDM modem (nice one David !) , even with that steady state error, users
were reporting that non zero BER on otherwise
For the OFDM modem in 1.4.1 700D,
What is the sample clock offset corrector's maximum offset for pull-in,
and hold in ?
investigating some trouble here.
I'm guess the pull clock for the TX samples are generated by the sound
device, and errors there will be the sound device and any error in
I used to run, which is here:
https://gist.github.com/darksidelemm/f09c3eb4a0fe837e4fd42347d264d85a
Note that this is fairly VK5 specific, and includes some custom
preambles and outros.
73
Mark VK5QI
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:23 PM glen english <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>&
In prep for adding and modifying things in FreeDV, this evening I built
FreeDV from source on debian BUSTER.
Wow everything worked. well done everyone :-) !
Now, I remember seeing the scripts for running audio and codec2 tests
But I cannot remember or find their location. Anyone care to
In VK1 Have been running voice keyer all day on different modes..., 20W
RMS 6m 50.25 (beaming 030 Hpol)
quite a few locals decoding it with interest.
like :
"
Ok, for the benefit of the group, I had some success too. I can decode
700D but my computer doesn't do 2020 (computer too old).
Hi All
I think the general advice to set the transmit power to when the ALC
begins to activate is incorrect.
Different radios have very different time constants for their metering.
In the IC7300, by the time the ALC begins to show on the display, you
are making a real mess of it.
Suggest
with LDPC. Agreed that we need to pick the code length and
rate carefully to avoid too much latency, but still give good
performance.
Cheers, Bill
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I want to discuss "to FEC or not to FEC"
years ago, david and I had a conve
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ht? If you get that far I'll
help you design the ctests we'll need to see as well.
Cheers,
David
On 6/7/20 7:10 pm, glen english wrote:
Hi David
The goal is to improve FreeDV so that it is at least equal with SSB on a
flat VHF channel.
On HF, the performance of FreeDV is better than SSB mainly
Someone needs t0 point out to these people such bandwidth is only
permitted at 29 MHz FM and not anywhere else. I will look up the rules
(to make sure I am not out of date and I am correct...) and read them
the riot act when I get home
glen
On 6/07/2020 6:18 pm, Al Beard wrote:
Hi all,
I
below
and I'm unclear on what you are trying to achieve.
Can you pls tell me what the goal of your proposed work is?
Cheers,
David
On 5/7/20 6:43 pm, glen english wrote:
I've been looking at an coherent MSK modem for Codec2. I have not done
any coherent MSK modems since the late 90s.
Using an SSB
I've been looking at an coherent MSK modem for Codec2. I have not done
any coherent MSK modems since the late 90s.
Using an SSB radio , at something like 1600 bps , there will still be
appreciable PAPR on MSK due to bandwidth constraint. probably about 3dB
PAPR on a 2400Hz wide radio. When
yeah i recommended to Alan he assign core affinity, For a single
threaded program , it can win you a few % by assigning afinnity on the
command line..
However- How multithreaded is it Alan ?
if it is well multi threaded, and IF there are significant worker
threads, you will find substantial
you run up my "parrot" and test
your modem?
Or, patch freebeacon to use freedv_rawdatarx() and then
from 'data' decode to audio.
Alan VK2ZIW
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:02:58 +1000, glen english wrote
nice one Alan
I am working on a VHF modem.
probably MSK with fully coherent MSK d
nice one Alan
I am working on a VHF modem.
probably MSK with fully coherent MSK demodulator (for SSB TX or
otherwise IQ)
On 4/07/2020 5:51 pm, Al Beard wrote:
Hi guys,
Battling "parrot" on my Odroid N2 caused me to check my audio
with the FreeDV GUI. Testing PC speaker to the mic on the
good enough.
Indeed, the noise of the 5Hz and the mixer setup does get into the act. That may
rule out a simple R/C oscillator as the source of the 5 Hz “tone”…..
Bob
On Jun 30, 2020, at 9:36 PM, glen english LIST wrote:
Hello group
I have an idea that might work, and I wanted to discuss
Hello group
I have an idea that might work, and I wanted to discuss with likeminded
that might already have experience with the problem.
Shifting a fixed oscillator a few Hz using a image reject mixer.
background : From time to time I (and others) make lock boards for ham
gear, pulling the
Yesterday, Dave Moore Vk2DVM and I got FreeDV loaded and running on 6m
, between sydney and canberra (260km path)
We used a variety of modes, but 700D and 2020 are really the only modes
you might as well use, other modes are either legacy, or designed for
specific jobs (es-hail satellite
alright.
The squash limiter works by subtracting a threshold from the ABS level
sample by sample
This resultant is negative clipped at 0, so that only peak events >
threshold produce any positive and non zero numbers
This value is fed (sample by sample again) into a short FIR low pass
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