Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/24/2018 06:47 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: I'm the one being disrespectful huh... Alright, I won't argue, if that's the consensus, effective immediately I am ceasing my contributions to CDE and unsubscribing from this mailing list. I was trying really hard to ignore this

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I'm the one being disrespectful huh... Alright, I won't argue, if that's the consensus, effective immediately I am ceasing my contributions to CDE and unsubscribing from this mailing list. I will explain to my sponsors that there is no desire to see CDE packaged. Goodbye. Thank you for your

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
Jon is correct, you should do your own work. Your contributions are in a public repository already, Sourceforge knows your name :-) However, such name calling will not be tolerated. I have been here about as long as Peter and Jon, I may be employee #3. So be respectful, please. On Sun, Jun 24,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Ah, no wonder why Jon is the co leader of this project, you are very abrasive for no reason, especially towards someone who does free work. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 24, 2018 7:05 PM, Peter Howkins wrote: > ​​ > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/24/2018 06:10 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: I'm running the last Archlinux. The wiki is out of datem but I don't know how much since I can't get it running. The AUR has the file list you should use. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cdesktopenv/ You'll also need libtirpc, of course.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
I'm running the last Archlinux. The wiki is out of datem but I don't know how much since I can't get it running. The AUR has the file list you should use. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cdesktopenv/ You'll also need libtirpc, of course. The rpcbind file is now in: etc/conf.d/rpcbind On

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Peter Howkins
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at 01:00, Chase wrote: > > The mystery man himself speaks! > > I'd rather not make an account, I am a bit paranoid about another big > corporation having my personal data and it getting leaked. Jon can testify :) I don't care. Open an account and open the tickets. When you

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/24/2018 06:00 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: I can't program at all. Looks like someone smarter than I will have to tackle this :-) I am sad :( Ok, what version of Arch are you running? I did notice a lot of errors regarding fonts, so I wonder if part of the problem is that you do

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
The mystery man himself speaks! I'd rather not make an account, I am a bit paranoid about another big corporation having my personal data and it getting leaked. Jon can testify :) ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 24, 2018 6:32 PM, Peter Howkins

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
I can't program at all. Looks like someone smarter than I will have to tackle this :-) On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 06/24/2018 05:21 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > I have attacked the relevant error logs > > > > Well, no need to be hostile toward them. :) > > I

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
On 06/24/2018 05:21 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: I have attacked the relevant error logs Well, no need to be hostile toward them. :) I don't know what the issue is - it does not appear related to the hostname. How are you at CDE/X11 programming? Could you debug it? -jon On Sun, Jun 24,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Could someone please put this in for me? Also, I have another ticket I'd like to see put it, regardingsome strange background behavior that is strange to look at for the user. On monitors with a higher resolution, the main background begins to loop, as seen here

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
:( So, something else is going on here... You have the correct localhost patch (you have tried this without the modification to /etc/hosts right?) rpcbind is running, and ttsession is registering successfully. So, anything of interest in: ~/.dt/errorlog ~/.dt/sessionlogs/*/* Note, for

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
You could try checking out whatever branch you did this in an see if you can rebase from cde-next... ie: git checkout cde-next git pull git checkout your-remove-ultrix-branch git rebase cde-next Assuming you get that to work, then you could try regenerating the patch. I don't know how you

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This is absolutely baffling to me, I have no idea why one three separate occasions, all removal attempts have failed. I guess Ultrix will be destined to stay in CDE, as I can't remove it no matter what I do! ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 24, 2018

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
Ok, so: 1) What does "rpcinfo -p" show you? 2) what does "git show 8c1ad2d3" -jon On 06/24/2018 04:35 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: No, I'm saying despite rpcbind running and /etc/hosts set properly I am still getting the same error, ie " "Could not connect to ToolTalk..." On Sun, Jun 24,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
No, I'm saying despite rpcbind running and /etc/hosts set properly I am still getting the same error, ie " "Could not connect to ToolTalk..." On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:01 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > > > On 06/24/2018 03:56 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > Rpcbind is running, and there a hostname,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove apollo support

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
Applied to cde-next, thanks. -jon On 06/24/2018 01:20 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: For everything except mkprod. This will be irrelevant pretty soon as moving to autotools should make the db tools obsolete. Thank you for your time, -Chase

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
Applied to cde-next, thanks! -jon On 06/24/2018 09:00 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess Thank you for your time, -Chase -- Check out the vibrant tech community

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] linux.cf: Remove -fpermissive flag

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
Applied to cde-next, thanks! -jon On 06/24/2018 01:33 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: This flag doesn't seem to prevent anything now from causing an error, this might be different for clang and yacc, but gcc worked fine, so I will only remove it on linux until further testing can be

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

2018-06-24 Thread Christopher Turkel
Rpcbind is running, and there a hostname, but the same issue. On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 06/22/2018 07:10 PM, Henry Bonath wrote: > > I think that's either rpcbind isn't running, or maybe the /etc/hosts > > file not having the hostname in there? > > I just loaded up

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-06-24 Thread Jon Trulson
This one fails to apply to cde-next: error: patch failed: cde/config/imake/imakemdep.h:561 error: cde/config/imake/imakemdep.h: patch does not apply error: patch failed: cde/lib/tt/lib/tt_options.h:341 error: cde/lib/tt/lib/tt_options.h: patch does not apply error: patch failed:

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove apollo support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Even with that, is there any point in us developing the, in some cases, only functioning desktop on platforms with absolutely no future in sight even if we have the emulators for it? No one has complained to me about removing old platform support, and it untangles a lot of ifdef messes. We

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove apollo support

2018-06-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The "mess" emulator can emulate an Apollo DN3500 reasonably well; I've got that running SR10.4 that I sometimes play with for nostalgia's sake. Not like I ever had CDE on an Apollo, so I have no stake in it; but just so you know the lack of hardware doesn't preclude someone running them. > On

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] es_ES.UTF-8 localizing

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
1. Not that I am aware of 2. Not that I am aware of 3. No 4. You'll be laying the foundation for this task, not even many of the more seasoned veterans know much on this topic, but it would be a great service to all of us. I would help you, but I myself do not know where to begin... Thank you

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Ulrich Wilkens
On 06/24/18 19:37, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Just for information: I've been working on a macOS port since a longer time. Have it now working for Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan. Sierra and High Sierra still have minor problems. All of them have two annoying issues which are based in

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Ulrich Wilkens
On 06/24/18 20:29, Henry Bonath wrote: Ooh I have an A/UX Mac (IIfx) CDE would be quite the upgrade let me tell you! No sorry, such an old beast is not supported by my port. I neither don't have the OS nor the hardware (68k) for it. So I cannot support it from my side. And I'm afraid it's

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] linux.cf: Remove -fpermissive flag

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This flag doesn't seem to prevent anything now from causing an error, this might be different for clang and yacc, but gcc worked fine, so I will only remove it on linux until further testing can be done. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 0b376bb85cae0079b891cfa198b4dae1f8baeb2c Mon Sep 17

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Henry Bonath
Ooh I have an A/UX Mac (IIfx) CDE would be quite the upgrade let me tell you! Thanks! -Henry Sent from my CSCloud connected iPhone http://cscloud.com/hosting > On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > > Not unless your Macintosh was manufactured 1987-1990 and runs A/UX ;) > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] You guys are driving me nuts with ideas

2018-06-24 Thread Matthew R. Trower
I can say with confidence that I doubt the CDE authors ever saw that coming in 1990. -mrt   Original Message   From: Henry Bonath Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 13:45 To: Pete Lancashire Cc: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] You guys are driving me nuts with

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] You guys are driving me nuts with ideas

2018-06-24 Thread Henry Bonath
Not sure if we can send pictures on here, but here’s my Raspberry Pi 3B+ running Raspbian lite, and the 2.2.4a dev release of CDE. The display is a 7” USB Displaylink ELO touchscreen. These things can definitely be fun! > On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:58 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > I'm

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 12:26, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > > On 06/24/18 17:29, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >>> On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:00, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel >>> wrote: >>> >>> This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess >>> >>> Thank you for your time, >>> -Chase >> Hmm, some of

[cdesktopenv-devel] es_ES.UTF-8 localizing

2018-06-24 Thread José Carlos Carrión Plaza
Hi co-listers: I'm willing to begin CDE es_ES.UTF-8 localizing. Are they a subproject like this? Anyone working in this? Any roadmap of such type of work? Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- José Carlos Carrión --

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Ulrich Wilkens
On 06/24/18 17:29, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:00, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess Thank you for your time, -Chase Hmm, some of us would like to see CDE work on our Macs one day; will this make it more

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Matthew R. Trower
For what it's worth, imake is included in the CDE source tree. We don't use a system binary.‎ There's no need to install it from MacPorts. -mrt   Original Message   From: Richard L. Hamilton Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:47 To: Matthew R. Trower Cc: CDE development Subject: Re:

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Nope, current (or at any rate, running macOS, formerly known as OS X), not a museum piece. Ok, if that's the case, no objection. Gotta say, I'm hopeful when I read people talk about moving to autoconf/automake etc instead of imake, which is not even available by default on reasonably recent

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Pete Lancashire
Removing these oldies is like a walk through time On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 8:32 AM Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Not unless your Macintosh was manufactured 1987-1990 and runs A/UX ;) > > -mrt > Original Message > From: Richard L. Hamilton > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:29 > To: Chase > Cc: CDE

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Matthew R. Trower
Not unless your Macintosh was manufactured 1987-1990 and runs A/UX ;) -mrt   Original Message   From: Richard L. Hamilton Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:29 To: Chase Cc: CDE development Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support > On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:00, Chase via

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:00, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > > This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess > > Thank you for your time, > -Chase Hmm, some of us would like to see CDE work on our Macs one day; will this make it more difficult? signature.asc Description:

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 14e52e59b9d63d66a5c8a78284a88b93ec7f78bc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 07:22:21 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Remove macII support --- cde/config/cf/Imake.cf|