To make things clear : The "showstoppers" or on the release vote thread and 
this mail should be
separate, they are just things to make life easier (at least that was my 
intention).

About the mentor part : If you think I am not listening in, you could (for 
safety) ping my apache
address, although I must add that being a mentor is doing more than vote on the 
incubator general
list (the preferred way is that the mentors already have voted before you move 
the vote to general).
I will start improving on my mentorship by reading the list on regular basis, 
instead of irregular
basis :)

Pinging me when something important happens isn't a bad idea though in case I 
get swamped with
Jakarta issues (which requires a lot of reading)

Mvgr,
Martin

Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> Hello Martin,
> 
> thanks for valuable feedback, appreciate that.
> 
> See inline for some comments
> 
> On 1/16/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi people,
>>
>> Just was checking the plugins release and I noticed a couple of things
>> that could be improved (this
>> is not specifically about the release, but more technical).
>>
>> A couple of things were missing from the release, which could be
>> handled a different way :
>>
>> - The parent pom of trinidad plugins could org.apache/apache/3 (think
>> that is )
>>   This fixes the license things automatically.
> 
> done, uploading the new homepage later today
> 
> 
>> - if you put a NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt in every "root" of an
>> artifact (plugins can be used
>> individually, so I think they need to be there anyway), you can simply
>> use the resources plugin to
>> include them from the root of the plugin, instead of having them in
>> src/main/resources. In any case,
>> the NOTICE could be different for every plugin (eg could imagine
>> adding javacc to the notice of the
>> javacc plugin)
> 
> I used <resources> plugin to archive that; for javacc I added Sun's
> BSD-style license to our license txt as well; also I added a comment
> to the notice.txt file
> the incubator_notice.txt is now also part of meta-inf folder.
> 
> 
>> - The current signing of the plugin (when doing releases) is
>> uncommented. You can also put that in a
>> profile, so you don't have to change the pom each time (probably could
>> also be done in a
>> profiles.xml, but to be honest, I never used that)
> 
> is that really a show stopper ?
> other podlings aren't doing this as well; currently it is only me
> doing the release or trying to
> (only my gpg-key part of KEYS file)
> 
>> - Add some documentation how a release are made by the trinidad
>> project (also for the non plugin
>> releases). (if it is already there, sorry didn't look too close :)
> 
> what do you mean? We have a wiki page, containing some infos on the release
> (fixed issues etc)
> 
> 
> 
>> If I can find some time I can do some of the changes myself and send
>> patches / commit myself
>> (whatever is preferred, in the commit myself scenario I will give
>> myself karma for trinidad).
>> I can also do it in a branch, so you can review if you are happy with
>> the changes I have in mind..
> 
> Go ahead and yourself karma for trinidad.
> Also I don't mind if you work on my "matzew-m1-plugins" branch. As
> mentioned, I already addressed lot's of the issues
> 
> 
> One more thing from my side to you as a mentor:
> I already did a vote thread here in trinidad, should I do a CC to your
> private email address to ensure that a vote like this is on your radar
> ? ;)
> 
> Thanks again for taking the time to help/guide us.
> 
> mfg,
> Matthias
> 
>> Mvgr,
>> Maritn
>>
> 
> 

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