Anyway to integrate any of those doorbell camera system into a unifi server?
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 8:07:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

The Nest cams seem to use less bandwidth, around 200 kbps per cam although I 
think you can change the video resolution setting, but they typically stream to 
the cloud DVR constantly.  And since they get put inside, rather than just at 
the front door, people tend to install a bunch of them, 5 is not uncommon, so 
even at 200 kbps per cam now you have 1 Mbps upstream.

The WiFi problem seems to be common to all these WiFi cameras.  I need to hire 
someone to explain the "sticking cheap little WiFi things with poor antennas 
everywhere and expecting them to work automagically" problem to customers 
because I'm losing patience and fear I will start biting heads off.  I notice 
that customers who actually hire a security camera company seem to end up with 
wired cameras.  Although ADT seems to install WiFi cameras.  So all burglars 
need to do is bring a WiFi jammer?  Maybe it comes down to security cameras 
bill for parts and labor while ADT has a fixed price and wants to minimize 
their labor?  More likely the local security camera guy is used to setting up 
businesses and takes a more robust approach.  I wonder when the police get the 
security camera footage from businesses near a crime, how many are "in the 
cloud" over the Internet or on someone's cellphone, and how many are stored 
locally?  Given that stores, banks, warehouses,  etc. may have dozens of 
cameras, I would think local storage starts to be more logical than streaming 
it all to cloud storage?  Or maybe they don't want thieves to steal the hard 
drive from the security system?  I would hope that's in a locked room.


-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 12:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

They only use the bandwidth when they are motion triggered which was a
large part when I am using them.   The majority of the issues we see
with people are because it is placed outside of a good wifi signal.

On 4/27/19 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
> doorbells to be high maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a 
> few seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must 
> be an Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of 
> upstream bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than 
> one of them can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not 
> sure why you need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 
> 1080p high def.  Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring 
> product and they have improved.  One customer recently reported that the 
> police had caught a burglar based on license plate info from a neighbor's 
> Ring doorbell, so maybe that is more of a "ringing" endorsement.
>
> Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>
> So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
>>
>>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>>> Any recommendations for that?
>>> *From:* Matt
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was
>>> looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch 
>>> accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. 
>>> I want to let certain other coworkers to have access to these cameras. Say 
>>> I also have an account that has cameras in a dog pen in back yard at my 
>>> house etc. I only want myself to see these cameras. Will that work with 
>>> blink?
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:44 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>     I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>>>     -Sean
>>>     On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>>>     wrote:
>>>         Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
>>>         Have customers asking too.
>>>         What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but
>>>         I see
>>>         no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
>>>         without sharing them all.
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