Fritz I will try to get the information for you on other v1 versions that I
have installed.

Thomas I have offloaded the DNS and MYSQL to separate servers now.  This
server is only running ASSP.  I have reduced it down to the default 5
threads.  The external dns server I am using on my local network has ample
RAM and CPU speed.  And the Mysql server I am using has xeon processors with
4 gb of ram.  There should be no reasons why assp is dying now on this
particular server.  If it does die now it's either related to one of the
following: 
1) a problem with the assp code 
2) a problem with one of the perl modules being used
3) assp v2 cannot support 275,000 connections on a dual penitum 600Mhz
system with 512 MB RAM

By the way I don't even do ClamAV or any other virus scanning on this assp
server.

Masood


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From: "Fritz Borgstedt" <f...@iworld.de>
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>So after almost 20 hours of testing with using the mysql database 
>instead of the flatfiles and the BerkeleyDB options for caching, the 
>assp v2 process on this box that I am testing it on is still dying.  It 
>has died twice.


Would you please inform me what information you have about your tries to run
newer versions of  ASSP V1. (Newer as 1.4.3.1).

It seems obvious (at least to me) that your problems started already in
version ASSP V1 when you tried to run newer versions. 1.4.3.1 was a
development version and is now nearly 2 years old.

ASSP V1  with versions above 1.4.3.1  is running in several thousands of
installations.
My recommendation would be to start with the newest version of ASSP V1 to
see what happens.

It is even easier to go from there to ASSP V2, because the feature set is
much more similar.



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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:53:00 -0400
From: Scott MacLean <a...@hollsco.com>
Subject: Re: [Assp-test] DB_File
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Wow. Answers in a wiki? Next you'll come up with a list of answers to
questions that are asked frequently. Hmm, what could you call such a
thing...? :)

Thanks. :)

At 08:29 AM 3/17/2010, Matti Haack wrote:

>yes,  ASSP  will import files to the MySQL DB! Just have a look at the 
>Wiki (sometimes, you will find help there :)
>
>http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/assp/index.php?title=Supported_da
>tabases
>
>Matti
> > Thomas,
>
> > Is there an elegant way to move a server from flat files to MSSQL 
> > (the server has a fast MSSQL server available, so I'd like to use 
> > it) without losing data?
>
> > At 01:55 AM 3/17/2010, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>
> >>This depend on the size of the flat files. Use the RDBM (SQL) DB of 
> >>your choice (MySQL,MSSQL,Oracle,ProstgreSQL,DB2) for the main lists 
> >>and hashes and BerkeleyDB for the others.
> >>In the past we had some problems using BerkeleyDB for the main 
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Masood,

>warning: got unexpected signal SEGV.....

These error are most related to the regex engine of Perl. Maybe the reason
is a very high (100%) CPU workload over some time.

>Worker_2: Can't call method
"fetchrow_arrayref" on an undefined value at

The MySQL server was not able to do a SQL-select statement. Is the MySQL
server running on the same system ? Maybe Perl (assp) , MySQL, ClamAV and
possibly some other processes are fighting for system resources!?

It looks like the system is going out of system resources (memory -
CPU-time). Keep in mind (as I've told you) - running 10 SMTP-Workers (13 
threads) + MySQL + ClamAV ....   on a very high workload system will need 
a (dual? ) quadcore system (switch off hyperthreading - this will produce an
unneeded overhead with Perl)! How much memory is used by assp? What is the
average CPU usage of assp in relation to the whole system?

Thomas



Von:    "Masood Rahim" <mas...@intertune.com>
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Datum:  17.03.2010 18:31
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Assp dying



So after almost 20 hours of testing with using the mysql database instead of
the flatfiles and the BerkeleyDB options for caching, the assp v2 process on
this box that I am testing it on is still dying.  It has died twice.

There is an exception.log file but it doesn't seem to provide any
information around the time the process died.  I just see many entries for
the following: Mar-16-10 12:37:33 Error: Worker_2: Can't call method
"fetchrow_arrayref" on an undefined value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/Tie/RDBM.pm line 166.

I did find the following debugSignal.txt file which looks like it does
contain some errors from right around the time before the server crashed:
Mar-08-10 16:00:38 warning: got unexpected signal ALRM in Worker_10001:
package - main, file - assp.pl, line - 38606!
Mar-08-10 18:15:00 warning: got unexpected signal ALRM in Main_Thread:
package - main, file - assp.pl, line - 37079!
Mar-11-10 20:36:57 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_3: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 17523!
Mar-13-10 00:36:01 warning: got unexpected signal ALRM in Main_Thread:
package - Encode::Guess, file -
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/Encode/Guess.pm, line - 139!
Mar-13-10 00:37:33 warning: got unexpected signal ALRM in Main_Thread:
package - IO::Socket::INET, file -
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/IO/Socket/INET.pm, line - 270!
Mar-13-10 00:38:29 warning: got unexpected signal ALRM in Main_Thread:
package - Encode::Guess, file -
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/Encode/Guess.pm, line - 134!
Mar-13-10 01:44:25 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_10: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 18160!
Mar-13-10 05:15:18 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_4: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 17554!
Mar-13-10 08:39:14 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_9: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 17554!
Mar-15-10 11:48:50 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_9: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 17554!
Mar-16-10 06:34:40 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_3: 
package
- Email::Simple, file -
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/Email/Simple.pm, line - 89!
Mar-17-10 09:52:32 warning: got unexpected signal SEGV in Worker_1: 
package
- main, file - assp.pl, line - 17907!

Any help is greatly appreciated, I am out of ideas and hope the information
above helps.

Thanks,
Masood


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:45:09 +0100
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>Inside this GZip archive is a file named assp.pl, which unpacks to
396,392 bytes.

I'm unable to reproduce this. Has anyone else seen this 'problem'?

Thomas



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At 01:48 PM 3/16/2010, Thomas Eckardt wrote:

> >This double GZipped,
>
>No it is not double GZipped - it is also used by the autoupdate and 
>this would fail if it where wrong GZipped.

I beg to differ. The file I downloaded this afternoon is assp.pl.gz, and was
396,535 bytes.

Inside this GZip archive is a file named assp.pl, which unpacks to
396,392 bytes.

This assp.pl file, if renamed to assp.pl.gz and opened as a gzip file,
contains another assp.pl file, dated 3/12/2010 4:11 PM, and which unpacks to
1,823,065 bytes.

> > ASSP dying
>
>Run assp in console mode - this should give you more informations. btw.:
>is there a file exception.log ? and what is in there?

There is no exception.log file.

I can't run it in console mode, because this is a production machine, and I
need my watchdog process to be able to restart the service should it 

die.

I should note that unlike Masood's experiences, version 2 has been ROCK
SOLID for me for a very long time, and it is only with the most recent
couple versions that I have been experiencing this dying problem.
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>What would you recommend?  Stick with flat files, mysql, mssql if
possible, berkeley, a mix?

Using flat files is the most worth option for V2 - but it should work for 
the default setup (max 5 Workers and no warnings about too large hashes at 

startup).

This depend on the size of the flat files. Use the RDBM (SQL) DB of your 
choice (MySQL,MSSQL,Oracle,ProstgreSQL,DB2) for the main lists and hashes 
and BerkeleyDB for the others.
In the past we had some problems using BerkeleyDB for the main hashes - 
but this is fixed. Using BerkeleyDB for the main hashes needs more DB 
knowledge, if more than 7 SMTP-Workers are running.

Thomas






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Datum:  17.03.2010 03:39
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Excellent.  I'll try this out in the morning and see what it reports.

I've always run our server without traditional databases and have just
have everything in flat files.  We're seeing a startup memory usage of
around 700mb, growing to 1.3gb+ after it runs for a while.  I am
asuming that using a database will greatly reduce that usage and speed
things up.

I want to continue to keep maintenance needs on this server low.  I've
used mysql before, but i'm by no means an expert.  I know MSSQL really
well, but presume that doesn't work with ASSP.  I know nothing about
berkeleydb and have never run it.

What would you recommend?  Stick with flat files, mysql, mssql if
possible, berkeley, a mix?

Your experience is appreciated.
Ken


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Thomas Eckardt
<thomas.ecka...@thockar.com> wrote:
> The module name is "DB_File" (case sensitive !!).
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Von:    K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
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> Datum:  15.03.2010 14:02
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] DB_File
>
>
>
> Using your suggestion, from the compress:zlib thread:
>
> C:\>perl -e "use db_file"
> Can't locate db_file.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/site/lib
> C:/Perl/lib .)
> at -e line 1.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1.
>
> Thanks
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Thomas Eckardt
> <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com> wrote:
>> DB_File should be part of default Perl installation (Active Perl for
>> example)!
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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>> Where can I find the DB_File perl module for windows 32?  Is doesn't
>> seem to be in assp.mod.
>>
>> Thanks
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> I'm unable to reproduce this. Has anyone else seen this 'problem'?

I think it's due to the program used to open the file, some "zip"
critters don't really know how to deal with gzipped or tar-gzipped
files and when you open such files they'll just show a compressed
file inside another file; just for a test, I opened the assp.pl.gz
sitting
into the download folder of an ASSP instance using IZarc (that's
an open source windows archiver, http://www.izarc.org/) and it
correctly shows the "pl" file, no "binary" or whatever




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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:54:52 +0100
From: "GrayHat" <gray...@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [Assp-test] DB_File
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> Using your suggestion, from the compress:zlib thread:
>
> C:\>perl -e "use db_file"
> Can't locate db_file.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/site/lib
C:/Perl/lib
> .) at -e line 1.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1.

Did you download/extract the "assp.mod" file and run the installer ?

That one will add some repositories to your Perl installation and
will install all the needed modules; just for a test, try running the
following

ppm s DB_File

and post here the complete output




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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:38:19 -0400
From: Scott MacLean <a...@hollsco.com>
Subject: Re: [Assp-test] DB_File
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Thomas,

Is there an elegant way to move a server from flat files to MSSQL 
(the server has a fast MSSQL server available, so I'd like to use it) 
without losing data?

At 01:55 AM 3/17/2010, Thomas Eckardt wrote:

>This depend on the size of the flat files. Use the RDBM (SQL) DB of your
>choice (MySQL,MSSQL,Oracle,ProstgreSQL,DB2) for the main lists and hashes
>and BerkeleyDB for the others.
>In the past we had some problems using BerkeleyDB for the main hashes -
>but this is fixed. Using BerkeleyDB for the main hashes needs more DB
>knowledge, if more than 7 SMTP-Workers are running.
>
>Thomas


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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:39:32 -0400
From: Scott MacLean <a...@hollsco.com>
Subject: Re: [Assp-test] Assp dying
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You're correct. I was using WinRAR, which has never given me problems 
before. I tried IZarc on the same file, and it worked correctly.

At 03:36 AM 3/17/2010, GrayHat wrote:

>I think it's due to the program used to open the file, some "zip"
>critters don't really know how to deal with gzipped or tar-gzipped
>files and when you open such files they'll just show a compressed
>file inside another file; just for a test, I opened the assp.pl.gz
>sitting
>into the download folder of an ASSP instance using IZarc (that's
>an open source windows archiver, http://www.izarc.org/) and it
>correctly shows the "pl" file, no "binary" or whatever


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See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta.
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