On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:35:17 -0800 (PST), JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Forget about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad for a moment.  Take a look at the Poet Jalal
> ad-Din Rumi.  A great man, right?  Can you compare him to Prophet 
> Muhammad? 
> Why or why not?

But the difference between Rumi and Bahaullah is that as a Muslim, it
is possible to accept the greatness of Rumi and he fits into and
enriches an Islamic paradigm. He was a Muslim, and taught his
followers to be better Muslims. There isn't any conflict with
accepting Islam and Rumi.

The same can be said of the other many saintly charismatic figures in
Islamic history. Some of them may have been eccentric or iconoclastic,
But fundamentally they were part of the same spiritual universe.

But since Bahai teachings are DIScontinuous with and actually violate
Islamic principles, then accepting Bahaullah means rejecting Islam.

Even Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is similarly problematic but nowhere near as
extreme. They still call themselves Muslims, they substantially follow
the same Shariah as sunnis, and at least one of the major branches are
actually careful not to call Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a prophet.


"My people are hydroponic"

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