Re: Past Revelations

[Rich Ater]

Susan     WOOF! Color me embarrassed. Of course you're right and I plea exhaustion when I wrote that. I remember reading of a North African Scholar who declared that the tales of the Mahdi were folktales and I, somehow, transposed this onto Ibn Khaldun. Nonetheless it is sloppy scholarship and I apologize to everyone, especially Gilberto, who I was addressing. Next time I'll verify my sources before shooting off my big mouth. Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:27:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can take something seriously, but not agree with it. Ibn Khaldun comes to mind. A brilliant man, the Muqaddimah was sheer genius. He was in the employ of the Ummayyads. To curry favor with them he wrote a piece denouncing tales of the Mahdi as mere folk stories and not Islamic. At the time the Ummayyad were going neck and neck with the Abbasids who were really playing the eschatology card. It was in the Umayyad's interest to down play this and Ibn Khaldun was happy to help his patrons out. While I respect Ibn Khaldun, I don't agree with this statement. Uh Rich, the Muqaddimah was written in the 14th century. Both the Abbasids and Umayyads were long gone by this time. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu