On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:

> I don't like absolute claims and so I probably wouldn't say that there
> is *nothing* new. But the Bahai faith and the Babi faiths definitely
> had antecedents within Islam. (most immediately, there was the Shaykhi
> movement for instance) The Bahai faith didn't spring out of a vacuum.

It's true that the Baha'i Faith did not spring out of a vaccum. Neither
did Islam nor any other religion for that matter. Religion, or the
Revelation of God, is a continuum.

I don't have a problem with you saying that. But I didn't go onto a
Muslim e-mail list trying to disprove someone who said that Islam has
nothing new. In fact, I think I've pointed out here before that the
Quran itself says:

[41.43] Naught is said to you {Muhammad} but what was said indeed to
the apostles before you.

But that doesn't seem like progressive revelation where the prophets
actually *do* bring new things from time to time.

> > Baha'u'llah forbids religious warfare, Muhammad
> > did not forbid this.

Gilberto:
> The Bahai writings allow for something called "righteous warfare" and
> I've never heard a convincing explanation for how it is significantly
> different from other just war theories in a moral sense.


Warfare conducted in the name of religion and/or conducted to covert
others into your religion is prohibited in the Baha'i Faith.

And the Quran says that "there is no compulsion in matters of
religion". Jihad, properly understood, is not about converting other
people at the edge of the sword. It is about protecting people from
harm.

-Gilberto




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