Perhaps you gentlemen can help me, in the context of your discussion, understand this verse as saying what you have written below.
 
AS this physical frame is the throne of the inner temple, whatever occurs to the former is felt by the latter. In reality that which takes delight in joy or is saddened by pain is the inner temple of the body, not the body itself.  (The Bab, Selections from the Writings of the Bab, p. 94)
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: You never really know: transsexual or gay?

Mind and Body are not seperate from each other in this plane of existence, anyway.
 
The source of much physical suffering is prompted by the mind.
 
The cases of pseudo-hermaphroditism are definitely from the body, not the mind. The events of genital ambiguity are definitely of the body, not the mind.
 
As to the rest of it, it's a swirl of grey, not a pattern of black and white. Gender dysphoria is complex, but undeniable.
 
Regards,
Scott

Hasan Elias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First off, sorry but I can't imagine one person "changes" sex, it sounds ridiculous to me. I’m not a pro in this, but I think very few heterosexual-homosexual cases have biological or genetic implications; the majority has psycho-sociological antecedents.


> >So what will the Faith accept as defining gender? What medical
> experts say? Chromosomes? Body appearance? What the person
> believes
> his or her gender to be? If a female changes to a male and later
> enrolls in the Faith, can he serve on the House? If a male is
> born with
> ambiguous genitalia and raised female, can he serve on the House
> if he
> chooses to later identify as male?

These are all issues which have been raised before the House of
Justice but they are not yet ready to make a ruling in this regards.

warmest, Susan




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