Dear David,
As I believe in God, I believe that what we call "luck" is God's wish. (and
when we don't understand why, we sometimes call it "unluck" or "bad eye"!)
This question reminds me a wellknown text of the Bible, the "Olivet
discourse", where Jesus says approximatly that He will come like a thief
during the night.
and also Jesus invites people to have their jacket and their stick always
ready, to be ready to go and follow Him at any moment. this is a clear
invitation to stay in the Faith during all our life, without thinking about
il we could have luck or bad luck!
Anyway, I also believe that we have absolutly no way to have an idea about
how God will judge our life!
Best Regards,
Loïc
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From: "David Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:22 AM
Subject: Luck and salvation
I am unable to refute the idea that luck can be involved in one's
salvation. If luck can be involved then the importance of salvation would
be diminished and it would raise the question of fairness. We are told in
the Writings that how we end our life determines our salvation when we get
to heaven. One could have lived a generally good life but lose everything
if they finished badly. The problem I see is this: Surely some of the
people who died young through accident or illness would have finished their
life differently had they lived longer. Instead of being saved they might
have got worse and not have found salvation or vice versa. Also, some of
the people who lived longer would have died in a different salvific state
had they died young. Surely some of the martyrs would have become
covenant-breakers had they lived longer. According to the Writings
children that died before birth receive God's mercy, which obviously means
they are saved. This would apply to the Bab's son. Given that most of the
Holy Family became covenant-breakers it would be likely that the Bab's son
would have become a covenant-breaker had he lived. If luck is a factor in
salvation then one's salvation at the time of death would not have the
importance it has in the Writings. Obviously predestination comes into
this discussion.
Regards,
David
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