The Baha'i Studies Listserv Wow, that's a really insulting ad hominem counter-argument which is really irrelevant to what was said. The Bahai faith all by its lonesome makes certain distinctions between men and women (e.g. membership in the house of justice, prohibition from military service, exemption from pilgrimage, different rules regarding menstruation and prayer, wills, etc.) It is just a fact that men and women are not talked about in the same terms in the Bahai writings. And it is only natural that a thoughtful Bahai would want to try to articulate some reasons those distinctions are made.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > That is precisely the argument Muslims make and if buy into it we have > made no progress whatsoever over the past dispensation. > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Naison Jones <naistrada...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> >> Hi, >> I want to share some thoughts not from a so-called scholarly perspective but >> more a 'spiritual-inights' one. >> >> True equality can Never exist between man and women because they are >> different. All is meant in Bahai is that women have the same spiritual rank >> as men and that implies 'true equality' not the equality of tasks and >> functions and responsibilities. >> >> If you look at equality in the outward sense in the world of creation it >> does not exist. No two human beings possess an equal lvl of intelligence and >> faculty of ability and appearance etc >> This is one of the signs of the diversifying power of God, his ability to >> create untold forms with his power and is probably a necessary exigency of >> the contingetent world. So when we say men and woman are equalit is naive to >> say that means they are the same and will all be doing the same thing. >> >> For those who struggle with this concept think about it like this. If God >> had intended equal responsibility between man and women he would have given >> them equal body parts, the man the ability to give birth and nurse a child - >> and vice verca. But these two inequalities of man and womans body must exist >> for a union of creation (ie a new child is made). Think about these signs of >> God it is interesting. Through this inequality a new life is made. This can >> be extended to many things. >> >> Therefore it is naive to say that the Bahai faith will have uniform, and >> perfect outward equality in all ways- as this does not exist. Perfect >> equality is achieved through inequality much the same way as Baha'u'llah >> says 'they will see peace in war', 'justice in seeming injustice in the >> seven valleys (valley of knowledge). >> >> >> regards >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>> > http://www.planetbahai.org/cgi-bin/articles.pl?article=327 >>> > >>> > This article was retrieved from a wikipedia link. >>> > >>> > Using intrinsic differences as an argument? >>> >>> To me this is the great danger in speculating as to the reason why >>> women do not serve on the House. 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