The Baha'i Studies Listserv Anyone familiar with the correct chronology for some of the dates quoted?
________________________________ From: Stephen Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> To: Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: Progressive Revelation Wikipedia quote The Baha'i Studies Listserv http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_of_Bah%C3%A1%27u%27ll%C3%A1h http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifestation_of_God http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_revelation_%28Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1b http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27u%27ll%C3%A1h No article for the Promised One Who Will Come After A Thousand Years Let's date this: Abraham circa 2000 BCE Moses circa 1700-1200 BCE (Depends on which Pharaoh you identify as the Pharaoh) Jesus circa 7 BCE - 37 CE Muhammad circa 570 CE - 632 CE Bab 1819 CE - 1850 CE Bahaullah 1817 CE - 1892 CE Promised One 2892 CE???? You can notice a problem in the chart that it only lists Abrahamic Manifestations, they are all mentioned in the Abdul-Baha quote below. It leaves the impression of one Manifestation appears and predicts another Manifestation - 1700 years in the future with no Manifestations in the interim. Well, to be more precise there were no Abrahamic Mnaifestations in the interim periods, but there were Manifestations. The timeline above assumes only Abrahamic Manifestations, yet non-Abrahamic Manifestations appear in time periods between Abrahamic Manifestations. We are currently in a period of no new Abrahamic Manifestations for 1000 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha Dates are harder to come by: Krishna circa before 6000 BCE - 500 BCE (before Abraham, between Abraham and Moses, between Moses and Jesus) Zoroaster circa before 6000 BCE - 500 BCE (before Abraham, between Abraham and Moses, between Moses and Jesus) Buddha circa 1050 BCE - 322 BCE (between Moses and Jesus) The above dates are all based on a desire for accuracy without any care for precision. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_avatar_claimants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirthankara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_twenty-eight_Buddhas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddha_claimants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navnath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basava http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Ravidass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_gurus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dadu_Dayal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayya_Vaikundar Dates for some of the above (Mahavira between Moses and Jesus, all others between Muhammad and Bab) Mahavira circa 599 BCE - 527 BCE Matsyendranath circa 800 CE - 1000 CE Basava aka Bhakti Bhandari Basavanna aka Basaveshwara 1134 CE -1196 CE Guru Ravidassia 1376 CE - 1520 CE Kabir 1440 CE - 1580 CE Sikh gurus 1469 CE - 1708 CE (or Present if you count the eleventh) Dadu Dayal 1544 CE - 1603 CE Ayya Vaikundar circa 1809 CE - 1851 CE That list just gives Dharmic/Indian religions, but there are other categories as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_founders_of_religious_traditions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Vietnam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Korea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_Paganism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_religions Progressive revelation is a core teaching in the Bahá'í Faith that suggests that religious truth is revealed by God progressively and cyclically over time through a series of divine Messengers, and that the teachings are tailored to suit the needs of the time and place of their appearance.[7][8] Thus, the Bahá'í teachings recognize the divine origin of several world religions as different stages in the history of one religion, while believing that the revelation of Bahá'u'lláh is the most recent (though not the last), and therefore the most relevant to modern society.[7] The general theme of the successive and continuous religions founded by Manifestations of God is that there is an evolutionary tendency, and that each Manifestation of God brings a larger measure of revelation (or religion) to humankind than the previous one.[9] The differences in the revelation brought by the Manifestations of God is stated to be not inherent in the characteristics of the Manifestation of God, but instead attributed to the various worldly, societal and human factors;[9] these differences are in accordance with the "conditions" and "varying requirements of the age" and the "spiritual capacity" of humanity.[9] These differences are seen to be needed since human society has slowly and gradually evolved through higher stages of unification from the family to tribes and then nations.[9] `Abdu'l-Bahá has expressed progressive revelation within the context of Greater Covenant as: Abraham, on Him be peace, made a covenant concerning Moses and gave the glad-tidings of His coming. Moses made a covenant concerning the promised Christ, and announced the good news of His advent to the world. Christ made a covenant concerning the Paraclete and gave the tidings of His coming. The Prophet Muhammad made a covenant concerning the Báb, and the Báb was the One promised by Muhammad, for Muhammad gave the tidings of His coming. The Báb made a Covenant concerning the Blessed Beauty, Bahá'u'lláh, and gave the glad-tidings of His coming for the Blessed Beauty was the One promised by the Báb. Bahá'u'lláh made a covenant concerning a Promised One Who will become manifest after one thousand or thousands of years. That Manifestation is Bahá'u'lláh's Promised One, and will appear after a thousand or thousands of years.[10] > > > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-690216-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu