Hey folks,

I've been prodding the partners in question to respond here when best they
can. Hopefully we'll hear from them soon!

This feature is not enabled under experimental-web-platform-features.

It's not really possible to write a test which fails in a non-timeout
manner, because the failure mode of this feature is that something does
*not* get prerendered. If something is not prerendered, there's no way to
communicate this to the referrer, since the would-have-been-prerendered
page has no ability to run code and signal such a failure.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:40 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

> +1 to elaborate on "We've heard from a few partners that they want to
> prerender among other same-site origins they own" to the extent possible.
> But given the relatively small addition to an already shipped feature, I'm
> personally OK with a pretty low bar here.
>
> It looks like one of the new tests
> <https://wpt.fyi/results/speculation-rules/prerender/credentialed-prerender-opt-in.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>
> is timing out on wpt.fyi. Is the feature covered by
> --enable-experimental-web-platform-features? Either way, shouldn't the new
> test be reliably passing or failing rather than timing out?
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:57 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> This seems like a reasonable extension of the base feature, but I'm
>> wondering who is asking for it. Can any of the partners you're working with
>> express support for it publicly?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 6:35:50 PM UTC-7 Domenic Denicola wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> dome...@chromium.org, robert...@chromium.org
>>>
>>> Explainer
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/nav-speculation/blob/main/prerendering-same-site.md#more-details-on-cross-origin-same-site
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/nav-speculation/blob/main/opt-in.md
>>>
>>> Specification
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wicg.github.io/nav-speculation/prerendering.html#navigate-fetch-patch
>>>
>>> Design docs
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WsDYA8NMCSwsK8dXCKdajdAd3ZcQUu9w1eoe0hEB_nU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> Previously <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5355965538893824> we
>>> launched same-origin prerendering triggered by the speculation rules API.
>>> This expands coverage to also allow triggering same-site cross-origin
>>> <https://web.dev/same-site-same-origin/> pages. This prerendering will
>>> be done with credentials and storage access, but such prerender targets
>>> will need to opt in by using the `Supports-Loading-Mode:
>>> credentialed-prerender` header.
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Internals>Preload>Prerender
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Internals%3EPreload%3EPrerender>
>>>
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/721#issuecomment-1235043792
>>>
>>> TAG review status
>>>
>>> Pending
>>>
>>> RisksInteroperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> This feature does not have significant interoperability or compatibility
>>> risks on top of the already-shipped same-origin prerendering feature. This
>>> is mostly a straightforward extension of that.
>>>
>>> The only potentially-interesting questions are around the design of the
>>> Supports-Loading-Mode header, which is the main new web-exposed "API".
>>> We've designed the header with an eye toward being easily implementable and
>>> future-extensible, using the structured headers infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Gecko: No signal. No signal on previous requests for prerendering and
>>> prefetching. I added a comment
>>> <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/613#issuecomment-1235040904>
>>> to the existing issue about prerendering.
>>>
>>> WebKit: No signal. No signal on previous requests for prerendering and
>>> prefetching. I took this opportunity to re-file
>>> <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/54> on their new
>>> GitHub repository in the hopes of getting some feedback, and there was some
>>> brief discussion of the cross-site case, but nothing about the
>>> same-site cross-origin case.
>>>
>>> Web developers: Positive. We've heard from a few partners that they
>>> want to prerender among other same-site origins they own, but cannot yet do
>>> so.
>>>
>>> Ergonomics
>>>
>>> This feature is triggered by the speculation rules API:
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5740655424831488
>>>
>>> ActivationUsing this feature requires the target page to have some
>>> control over its HTTP headers. This is not possible on some hosting sites,
>>> e.g. GitHub Pages. We have envisioned a future extension of allowing a
>>> <meta> version of Supports-Loading-Mode
>>> <https://github.com/WICG/nav-speculation/blob/main/opt-in.md#an-in-markup-version>
>>> that could address this, but have not yet heard of a concrete case where
>>> this would be necessary, so it is not included in this Intent.
>>> SecurityThis feature allows one origin to cause another origin to be
>>> rendered, including its JavaScript code. Because this can be dangerous, we
>>> require the target origin to opt in using the Supports-Loading-Mode header.
>>> This feature respects the cross-origin-isolation process model, to
>>> prevent the referrer and target pages from attacking each other through
>>> side channels.
>>> These issues are discussed further in the design doc
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WsDYA8NMCSwsK8dXCKdajdAd3ZcQUu9w1eoe0hEB_nU/edit?usp=sharing>
>>> and explainer
>>> <https://github.com/WICG/nav-speculation/blob/main/prerendering-same-site.md#more-details-on-cross-origin-same-site>
>>> .
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>> This feature is not available on WebView.
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> DevTools support for prerendering in general remains in the early
>>> stages; you can track that work in https://crbug.com/1217029, or see
>>> our general development guide
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bCDZUXa4HiiwsI9B9NEPzaXQekzHea1D0mRO4Z_9cNU/edit>
>>> .
>>>
>>> However, this expansion to cross-origin same-site target pages does not
>>> have any special debuggability concerns.
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>
>>> No. Prerendering is not supported on Android WebView.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Yes <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3944113>
>>>
>>> Flag name
>>>
>>> SameSiteCrossOriginForSpeculationRulesPrerender
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>
>>> False
>>>
>>> Tracking bug
>>>
>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1356449
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> Ship in 109 on both desktop and Android.
>>>
>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>
>>> None.
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4899735257743360
>>>
>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>
>>> Intent to Prototype
>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM0wra8B6wL%3Dz8NSxWVq713ZetPfQGh%3DfBBk_BO37qac1zOc6Q%40mail.gmail.com>
>>>
>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>> <https://chromestatus.com/> and tweaked by hand.
>>>
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