Dear Mr. James; The main point I want to make clear is that Cambodia at the moment is at risk. The main debate is not about the past or who is foreigner, who is not foreigner; the main debate is Khmers who must stand on reality.
First, the current Hun Sen government is a manipulative government. The CPP has monopolized all media outlets to lie and cheat Cambodian people. Second, aids and election have been conducted to weaken Cambodia because it doesn't stand on integrity Third, the so-called rule of law and court are just tool for the powerful to humiliate the dissenters and innocent Cambodians. I think now you get the point. KY On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok <entry_me...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Please read attachment. > > Thanks, > James > > > ________________________________ > From: Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> > To: James Sok <entry_me...@yahoo.com> > Cc: "camdisc@googlegroups.com" <camdisc@googlegroups.com>; Gaffa Peangmeth > <peangm...@gmail.com>; Chheat Srey <chheath...@gmail.com>; Diep Ly > <angkorboreine...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators > including Hun Sen > > Dear Mr. James; > > Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used > by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double > standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. > > Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter > of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a > liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the > Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points > to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. > > In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the > failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up > tool: KR. > > Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to > join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev > Somphan to bleeding. With this activity, how can Hun Sen has always used the > rhetoric of national reconciliation and national unity? > > Hun Sen's words are just a planned framework of Vietcong-Vietminh to cheat > Cambodian people and the world. > > I hope you might have to choose between scholars like NC as well as MV, or > David Chandler as well as Elizabeth Backer. > > KY > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Sok <entry_me...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Please read my comment in Khmer. > > > > > > > > > > >Thx > >James > > > > >From: Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> > >To: James Sok <entry_me...@yahoo.com> > >Cc: "camdisc@googlegroups.com" <camdisc@googlegroups.com>; Gaffa Peangmeth > ><peangm...@gmail.com>; Chheat Srey <chheath...@gmail.com>; Diep Ly > ><angkorboreine...@gmail.com> > >Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:17 PM > >Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators > >including Hun Sen > > >Dear Mr. James; > > >Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into > >that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the > >attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this > >definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all > >dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the > >monopolization of national wealth, state media, arm force and civil servants > >etc. All dictators around the world have shared this common sense and it is > >only dictators themselves can clearly explain this to us. > > >The argument of your point regarding foreigners violated other sovereign > >states is not relevant. According to the international laws on the respect > >of human rights, the UNs or its alliance can step into intervention in order > >to save those innocent lives. Sometime, those interventions cannot fully > >achieve, but at least, the international efforts can curtail those human > >rights violations. For instance, in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or Lybia etc. > > >Vietnam invade Cambodia was wrong and Vietnam violated the international > >laws as Vietnam had no pre-approval from the UNs to trespass into Cambodia > >land though Vietnam used the excuse to save Cambodian lives from genocide. > >However, Vietnam is smarter than current puppet Hun Sen government who is > >still prostrating Vietnamese troops, by quickly withdraw its troops from > >Cambodia after that 10 years. In reality, that 10 years, Vietnam had > >accomplished to what Uncle Ho planned: to spread its spies entire Cambodia, > >to plunder all national treasures from Cambodia, to face up with China and > >to unify all Vietnamese waring fractions during the great national > >unification etc. > > >I am young but I can understand many words from our elders which those words > >are so in vain and goal-less. This is why Cambodia cannot free from the jaws > >of foreigners. > > >KY > > >On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:17 AM, James Sok <entry_me...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >Please read attachment in Khmer. > >>Thanks, > >>James > >> > > >>From: Khmer Young <khmeryo...@gmail.com> > >>To: khmeryo...@gmail.com > >>Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:22 AM > > >>Subject: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators > >>including Hun Sen > > >>Thursday, November 3, 2011 > >>The fate of Col. Gaddafi terrified all world dictators > >>The end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and > > physically. The middle east spring has toppled many dictators such as > Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni > Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be > removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed > after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be > removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez > al-Assad’s 29-year reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in > power). Hun Sen can also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of > Indonesia and Marcos of the Philippines.>>Recent speech at the bridge > inaugural ceremony of Hun Sen on the comparing him to Col. Gaddafi is > understood as a consoling lullaby for his personal nervous soul. The video > clip of > > beating up and humiliating of Gaddafi is not acceptable for those who > love human rights and human dignity but it has truly terrified dictators > worldwide. > > >>All dictators have been defined as: > > >> * staying in power too long or forever > >> * transferring power to their own kin under the umbrella of family > >> when they are in aging condition > >> * terrify their own objectives (citizens) not to stand up > >> bargaining their power > >> * monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and create the > >> rule of law that can legitimize their power > >>All these few considering factors of dictatorship, how could Hun Sen can > >>distinguish himself from Gaddafi? > > >>Hun > > Sen and his spokesperson like Phay Siphan said Hun Sen is different > from Gaddafi because Cambodian people elected Hun Sen during the > national election. How could election in Cambodia can legitimate Hun Sen > power and push him away from Gaddafi's character when Hun Sen can > monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and utilize the rule > of law to favor his absolute power? Election in each year is just a stage of > Lakhorn to hide the reality from Cambodian people and the international > communities. > > >>For > > Hun Sen, he used the past tragic war to terrify Cambodian people and > his recent speech culminated this. His logic based that the toppling of > Gaddafi stemmed from war of the opposition. In this matter, Hun Sen > wanted to tell us that if "you want to make Hun Sen like Gaddafi, you > must rise up by grabbing guns and fight against him". He also encouraged > Cambodian dissents by providing a big stock of ammunition supply. > > >>In > > this matter, Hun Sen can use the reality smarter and clearer than his > spokespersons Phay Siphan. Note that Phay Siphan has always stated that > all trials to punish dissents are the path to strengthening the rule of > law in Cambodia. > > >>At the end, Hun Sen is still terrified by the > > image of death of Gaddafi. Not only opposition which can topple Gaddafi. > The loyal persons close to Gaddafi are also pointing gun at Gaddafi. > The NATO and the international communities are also in favor of the > opposition. In reality, the people of Libya have supported Gaddafi more > than current support of Cambodian people towards Hun Sen. > > >>Let consider few factors that make Hun Sen terrifying at the moment: > > >> * Hun Sen has realized that his prolonging term in power will end > >> up like > > Gaddafi although he can use the past genocide, the election and the > physical development of Cambodia at the present to legitimize his power.>> > * His fate will end up like Gaddafi either by his dissenters, or by his > > contenders within the CPP, or by the international communities.>>The > > end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and physically. The middle > east spring has toppled many dictators such as Tunisia’s Ben Ali > (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed > after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after > 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 > years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 > years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year > reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in power). Hun Sen can > also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of Indonesia and Marcos of > the Philippines. > > >>Among those dictators, Mubarak has shared > > similarity with Hun Sen. In every election in Egypt, Mubarak always won > and could claim his power legitimacy. But the people of Egypt cannot > tolerate with that fake election and finally Mubarak must fight with the > court although he is living inside the steel cage. > > >>Seeing these falling down of dictators, rumors within the throne of Hun Sen > > have haunted Hun Sen's power. Hun Sen has cancelled Boat Racing Ceremony this > year is not from something else but power protection for himself. > The recent birthday ceremony for King Norodom Sihanouk is just a tool to > pressure those contenders in his party ring. Only Hun Sen and powerless Heng > Samrin appeared at the Birthday Ceremony of the former King. Chea > Sim has been politically absent from the scene. Chea Sim must be so > painful on the effort of Hun Sen to purge his associates. > > >>Why > > in Cambodia, only the people who are close to Chea Sim have been > arrested of corruption and trading drug? All people who are close to Hun > Sen are all very good? > > > > > > > > > > >>Hun Sen is in a nightmare and I don't think he can run away from this > >>nightmare in > > ... > > read more » > > KhmerYoung_110511.pdf > 51KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
