One other thing - on my new boat (a cutter with two furlers) the headsail halyards have clutches on the mast and share a mast-mounted self tailing winch. This makes sense on that boat. Our c&cs were built for racing headsail changes, and my 33-2 as an example, has the now only occasionally used furling Genoa halyard led aft. I frequently sail singlehanded. When setting the asymmetrical spinnaker (in its sock) or changing headsails solo, it would actually be easier to have at least a belay point at the mast, possibly even the winch. (I’ll leave that to you to think through fully) This would free the cabin top of 3 halyards, reduce friction etc etc.
Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:55 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I've crewed on several boats where things were hard to operate due to the > friction caused by pour installation and zero maintenance. Some tips I > remember: layout the clutches so the heavily loaded lines line up with the > right side (looking forward) of the winch drum, so the winch has the highest > leverage and the line has the least friction. The main halyard and genoa > halyard are the highest loads and it's easy to route one halyard to starboard > and the other to port so the highest loads are taken care of. My Barient > winches (manuals on Stu's cncphotoalbum.com) are best oriented so the final > driving cog is mated to the outside drum where the line meets the drum. The > line then presses the drum against the gear and this helps mesh the gears > together in an efficient manor. You may be able to position the winches > close to the companionway so the handles clear the dodger frame. I used a > sheet of thin G-10 and some thickend epoxy to create a flat surface to mount > my winches on the curved cabintop. West Systems has illustrations in their > manual which I think is free online. > > Recommend you read the online installation tips from your clutch and winch > manufacturers as the distance between clutch and winch are crucial too. It's > all about getting the best performance and longest life from your equipment. > > > Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis > > > > > >>> On 03/30/2023 3:49 PM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Double check the orientation and total operating footprint consumed by the >>> line clutches before you proceed, especially if they will live under a >>> dodger. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I did this on my 35-1 (called Mystic). I used Garhauer too but this one: >>> Deck Organizer 30-DO-QBI | Garhauer (garhauermarine.com). I chose a >>> location about even with the front of the mid-boat hatch and angled them so >>> the angle to mast was the same as the angle to the clutch. Check coach >>> roof to make sure there's nothing in the way for where the bolts come >>> through the deck. I ended up with one bolt half on a molded edge. I have >>> the plastics caps for hiding the holes, if you want some. >>> >>> Halyard length needs to be twice deck-to-masthead height + distance back to >>> cockpit + about 6 feet. >>> >>> Bob >>>> On 03/30/2023 1:52 PM John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello. In the process of moving all my lines from the mast back to the >>>> cockpit and wanted to see what others have done. All old winches and deck >>>> gear is off. Also, I am going to replace my jib halyards (main, spin and >>>> topping lift were already back to the cockpit on old blocks etc) if anyone >>>> has an any measurements for the 36-1 halyards to the cockpit please let me >>>> know. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For the new deck hardware. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am thinking about using the following: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Deck Organizer 40-DO-QB | Garhauer (garhauermarine.com) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Spinlock Mid-Size Boat Deck Organizer | Defender >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Still looking at clutches, want quads and Spinlock/Lewmar/Garhauer have >>>> them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bought two used Lewmar 30 ST for each clutch. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am thinking I need to get both the deck organizers up near the mast >>>> where the winches used to be and the clutch organizers to make sure that >>>> the lines are not hitting up against the traveler base. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John McCrea >>>> >>>> Talisman >>>> >>>> 1979 36-1 >>>> >>>> Mystic, CT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >>>> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> Thanks for your help. >>>> Stu >>> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >>> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> Thanks for your help. >>> Stu >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu
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