2008/3/18, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>Yes, it plays many closed, proprietary formats out-of-the-box, but >>none of the open formats like ogg vorbis, ogg theora, flac, speex, >>dirac. So it does not play any of my music out-of-the-box, and I'd >>prefer to support vendors that support those formats. > You're speaking with forked tongue here: no other device plays all > those out of the box either, including full Linux desktops.
I find it very hard to believe you read what people are writing, are not troll or whatever. Linux desktops do play the open formats I mentioned, that's the benefit from using open formats. Also some music devices support open audio formats like the mentioned Vorbis and FLAC. I mainly use Vorbis. > store my media in 15 different formats just so I can say I'm using > an open format. If I can't drag and drop the same file onto each > and every one of my devices and have it play perfectly, I'm not > going to bother. I use only 2 formats, and they are both open. Your problem is using products that do not support open formats. That's why I'm only buying hardware that supports open formats, so I don't get into the format hell where every proprietary codec owners (mp3, aac, wma...) wants their format to be the one everyone uses, and no-one, especially any open product, can support them all (or any of them) since all require license fees. Open formats would solve the problem. > And "lossless" formats are a joke. They use such prodigious amounts > of storage space that there's really no point at all. Just use the > original media! Off-topic, but CDs are much more cumbersome to use, and yes I mostly use lossy format (Vorbis) instead of FLAC when I use music I've copied from my CDs. I also buy music in FLAC and transcode it to Vorbis for mobile devices. > Ogg support is a few taps of the stylus away for IT OS2008. The point was, again, that the vendor does not _support_ it or other open formats, which is far more important than how easy it's to install programs/support manually. I already stated it as clearly as I could it. >You're way exaggerating >the situation. You also deliberately left out xvid, which OS2008 >plays through mplayer, also only a few taps away. Xvid is MPEG-4 which equals to patent-encumbered format that requires license fees, so it's not open/free format so I didn't mention it because I'm not interested in it. > Vaporware is not the way to attract customers. It seems to have very strongly attracted you according to the amount of stuff you keep on posting and repeating. -Timo _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community