On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:28:13AM +0800, Marek Lindner wrote: > On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 10:18:33 Al Johnson wrote: > > I agree with everything you say here. The keyboard should just appear when > > I want it and disappear when I don't. The absence of a manual override > > means that whenever it gets it wrong I can't correct it, the worst case > > being when I need to enter something but the keyboard doesn't appear. > > Conversely the presence of a manual override causes no problem even if it > > is never needed. > > > > The keyboard failing to appear is not a hypothetical scenario. Without > > manual intervention minimo was unusable because the keyboard didn't appear > > when the cursor was placed for URL entry. This is likely to be an issue > > with other apps that don't have a specific openmoko port, and we shouldn't > > have to create such a port just to use an otherwise capable app on > > openmoko. Other issues include the keyboard appearing when an edit field > > has focus although I don't want to edit it, keyboard appearing and > > disappearing frequently if a form contains mixed input types, or appearing > > over the top of the field to be edited. The field having focus although > > editing is not required is probably impossible to detect because the answer > > depends on the opinion of the user at the time. > > I understand your points and they all are valid. How do we address them ? > That > brings us back to Seans mail. Openmoko will provide the minimum set of > applications and basic functionality that empowers ordinary users to use the > phone. We will make sure that these applications work well with the > environment we provide. This is an ongoing process we just started compared > to many established phone systems. > Feel invited to extend that basic system through packages that can be > installed. If you install an application that hasn't been ported to the > Openmoko platform and does not support the keyboard you also should install > the manual keyboard button or you just install a package which deativates the > automatic keyboard behaviour right away if you don't like it. > We have to realize that the world is very diverse - we wont find a solution > which suits for everybody in all the cases. So, we have to make it flexible. > Again: This is a process and you can help us with that. > >
I feel terrible about this whole mess because I was one of the first people in the original terminal thread, and I filed one of the original bug reports on it too. I don't expect to be able to stop the mailing-list train wreck from continuing, now that it has developed a momentum of its own, except to apologize for having been involved in starting it in the first place. Sorry about that. -ken _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community