>> The graphical installer is great! I really like this, although I agree >> with the opinion stated elsewhere that the text is too big, and I'd >> really like to see the 'description' text on the package details screen, >> so that I know what the package is (names aren't always that informative). >> > > So you don't think it should be usable without a stylus? > > Not really, I don't see a need - Installing software is not something you're going to be doing five times a day while on the train on the way to work. Sure, you _might_ use it once a day, but i think for that one time you can fumble around and find your stylus. And even if you are installing software 5 times a day, on the train and have lost your stylus, you can always use your keys ;)
The letters on the keyboard are smaller than the text in the installer, and they're pressable with fingers. I didn't say the text should be small, just not so enormous! >> * keyboard >> - Predictive text is annoying as hell. >> > > Agreed. > There seem to be some kind of "interface nazism" (to quote Thorvalds) > going on. > Apart from the predictive keyboard being *really* annoying - especially > if you are typing URL's, shell commands or a non-english language!! then > I don't understand this idea that there can't be a bring-up-the-keyboard > button. (yes I know I can install a qwerty-button). > For me the correct way is like qtopia: > * Have a bring-up-the-keyboard button > * Have change-input-method option > * Have a set of different keyboards (multitap,full > qwerty,handwriting,om2008-like) to toggle between. > * Be able to turn predictive keyboard OFF > ... and for goods sake... don't make a keyboard without a delete key. > > Yeah, well put. It's not just the predictive text either when typing URLs. for example, typing in my mail server was *horrible* - - i type 'mail', then tap the word 'mail' to insert it into the textbox - then I stroke down until I get to the screen with the period, then i press that, then i tap the period at the top to put it in the textbox. - this inserts a space after "mail.", so i have to position the cursor after the space and stroke left for backspace, then reposition the cursor at the end of the line. - then I stroke up a couple of times to get back to qwerty - then I type internode, but internode isn't in the dictionary so I have to type and tap on 'inter' - then I repeat the space erasure procedure. - then I type type 'node', click on 'node' - then I repeat space erasure procedure. - then I have to type 'on.net' using this same painfull process. and these are all dictionary words! multiply the annoyance by 2 seconds for each keypress if your mailserver / URL isn't made up of dictionary words! :O compare this with 21 stylus taps using the matchbox keyboard. and this isn't even a particularly difficult thing to be typing! I think the real solution to make everybody happy will be a set of different keyboards: a multitap-type keypad like on a phone, a stylus-friendly full qwerty keyboard like matchbox keyboard, and a finger-friendly, multi-mode qwerty keyboard like the one we have (with an option to turn off the predictive text), aimed primarily at finger-friendly texting. >> - I'd like to see letters on the numeric keypad screen. For example, >> the PIN on my sim card is a word typed using the numbers on my phone >> keypad, not a number - I have no idea what the numbers in my PIN are! in >> order to enter my pin using this numpad, I have to get out my nokia and >> look at it's keypad and then type in the numbers. >> > > Arhh... go write it down, then. > So, just to be clear, you're telling me that I should totally void any security which this pin provides by writing it down? If I'm going to do that, I might as well just disable the PIN. I did say 'I'd like to see', not "OMFG THIS IS THE WORST!". _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community