Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 01:35, Timothy R. Butler wrote:

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The much hyped Vera Font Family ("Gnome Fonts,") high quality (and Free Software compatible) fonts from Bitstream are now available in beta form! This means that finally we have access to Bitstream quality fonts that we can use to replace Helvetica and other old non-scalable fonts to provide a high quality default D.E. :-)
Is there anyway this can be squeezed into Mandrake 9.1? It'd be cool if 9.1 could premier with the same caliber of fonts as distros like Lindows and Lycoris which only have 'em since they are licensing proprietary fonts...

[Note: the beta is not redistributable, but final fonts are due out in March... hopefully before Mandrake 9.1 goes final!]

Yes, and frankly, they suck.

Vera Sans looks crappy and amateurish compared to verdana. Serif looks
unprofessional compared to Times New Roman. Sans Monospace is the best
of the bunch, but it's unusable for terminals because it's too tall and
thin. People are used to square characters in terminals. I downloaded
the betas in excitement and went straight back to my Microsoft fonts
five minutes later with considerable disappointment...:\
Not that bad. Regarding the Sans Monospace, it's a mid way between
Courier and Andale Mono.

Regarding Times, you have Nimbus URW clones. If you find they don't
look as Times New Roman (of course the TTF), it's because
of hinting, but maybe someone could better hint them.

Furthermore how can you say that Vera Sans are crap compared to Verdana (which
of course doesn't include serif font family)? See these examples:

http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verdana-hinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verasans-hinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verdana-unhinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verasans-unhinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/andalemono-hinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verasansmono-hinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/andalemono-unhinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/verasansmono-unhinted.png
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/ooffice-vera-hinted.png

Bye.
Giuseppe.







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