Am Mi., 13. Okt. 2021 um 20:51 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge <pe...@stuge.se>:

> > Linux is expecting more and more to use EFI supplied interfaces (UEFI
> > Boot Services in particular, even if many are stubbed out) so like it or
> > not, we’re going to need to support these interfaces.
>
> LOL!
>
The fun part about this segment was that all we could go by was hear-say
and unfounded rumors that went around.
I attended that meeting but from what I've heard there, no such expectation
might actually exist, and it might just have been a weird game of telephone.

This is super embarrassing for Linux and Linux Foundation, but of
> course also 100% to be expected. Linux plods along towards absolute
> uselessness.
>
Remember that LF is a trade organization (501(c)(6)), not a charitable
organization (501(c)(3)).
This difference in target audience compared to most open source
organizations informs their strategic decisions, and keeping that in mind
minimizes surprises and heartburn.

> * The coreboot repo will host an EDK2 fork for use as a coreboot payload.
> I think the planned tighter integration is a significant first step
> towards coreboot becoming UEFI.
>
This isn't about a "tighter" integration: we already have that payload, and
we had Tianocore-as-a-payload integration since 2013 (commit
cc5b3446624cf85e13a8130a524e81360c5f4239)

It minimizes the time each individual, who for one reason or another works
on edk2, needs to spend on edk2.
OTOH I haven't found a better way to make developers fervent edk2 opponents
than simply showing them the source, so there's that.

> * Definitely no one-size fits all solution here
>
> The challenge is great. The coreboot community must be strong and
> vigilant to not allow coreboot to get locked into EDK2/UEFI like has
> already happened with vboot. The vboot case arguably hurts coreboot a
> lot less, but unfortunately all incentives are wrong for quality!
>
I'm not sure why vboot makes this sudden appearance here.

I don't expect this to go at all well for coreboot, but fingers crossed!
>
Want peanuts?


Patrick
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