-Caveat Lector- SHOOTOUT AT COLUMBINE--THE AFTERMATH (Interview article follows below) Sifting Through the Rubble ©1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved The interview I conducted with Columbine High School student and massacre witness Chris Wisher, along with other facts uncovered regarding the horrifying tragedy at Columbine, provides proof positive that a far deeper and vastly more sinister, terrifying, and threatening reality skulks beneath the surface of that horror; profoundly more disturbing than the incomprehensibly vicious murder and mayhem itself, and how it may have first appeared. You, me and our entire nation MUST pursue the desecration of justice, truth, innocence and what remains of our Constitution as proved by facts about the monstrosity at Littleton and the outrageous coverup being conducted in it's wake. We must DEMAND the truth be known for the sake of our very future -- which is in fact the well-being of our children; and on behalf of the lives lost and the families shattered. The reality which operated behind the scenes of the nightmare in Littleton threatens the foundations of our existence so fundamentally that the ìauthoritiesî are attempting a coverup in the face of dozens -- perhaps HUNDREDS -- of eyewitnesses to the fact that there were a NUMBER of other participants involved in the deadly rampage at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999. Attempting a coverup in the face of numerous photos, TV footage, and news items showing other assailants being ARRESTED at the scene of the mayhem that day, NEVER TO BE HEARD OF AGAIN. ìAuthoritiesî have attempted to pull off this coverup in full view of literally tens of millions of people; in particular those who get their information from the mass media -- like MOST of us! Providing assistance in this primetime coverup special (on ALL the networks!) was an extraordinary performance from Mr. Al Gore; having the grace and presence of mind to make SURE to don his SUBLIMINALLY LOADED ankle-length black trenchcoat before delivering his positively reptilian laxative of a eulogy to the severely manipulated crowd and viewing audience at the ìmemorialî service for the slain innocents on 4/25/99. That would be the memorial service at which the truth about Littleton -- already so gravely wounded, was supposed to be buried. My interview with Columbine witness & student Chris Wisher proves CONCLUSIVELY and for all time that a coverup at Littleton is without any doubt whatsoever in effect. This is what was told to me repeatedly by Columbine witness Chris Wisher and what was clearly implied by his father. Other gunmen were DEFINITELY involved; and law enforcement investigators are coercing witnesses into making their stories conform to the two "lone" gunmen theory. I had an intensive initial conversation with Chris for about 40 minutes. He was absolutely clear and direct in his comments nor did he falter or say things differently at different times. Chris is quite intelligent and expresses himself and recounts his experiences very well. Due to the extreme intimidation being applied to the young people from Columbine High not only by having investigators coerce them into NOT saying there were more than 2 gunmen but ALSO through the even greater intimidation of having some of the gunmen back at class, back in circulation, right "on the scene" to enforce silence, it seems an act of sure courage for Chris or anyone else to speak out about what's going on. I have contacted him a second time to clarify some points and ask him to give my email and phone number to friends and other students who were witnesses to the terrible events and are NOT being listened to by investigators. The most important point to consider now, which I discussed with Chris Wisher, is this. Why in the name of heaven would law enforcement and mass media attempt a coverup here? Chris said that the only thing he could think of is authorities don't want people to "panic", but we both agreed that could not POSSIBLY explain the coercion of witnesses "behind the scenes." SO, why a coverup? Exactly the question. I've thought of an angle such as a shooter being related or connected to someone in law enforcement, etc. The thing is, we are talking about dozens, perhaps a couple of hundred of witnesses to more than two gunmen. It seems inconceivable that even an ATTEMPT at a coverup would be made under such circumstances unless the stakes were incredibly high. Letís keep in mind the FBI has been very involved with the investigation. Consider also that though the FBI is investigating the case they DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION! However for the FBI to back a cover-up or allow one to go down, obviously the orders must come from the VERY TOP OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. I can't imagine the Jefferson County Sheriff's Dep't. trying to pull a coverup under the FBI's nose(s) and I'm pretty sure the FBI would NOT support any coverup based on a reason as above. If the massacre was a foreign based terrorist attack, it definitely involved SOME (and that is WAY more than two) students as active participants-- which seems pretty unlikely to me. Blackmail (to enforce silence/coverup) could also be a possibility but again I find it unlikely the FBI would be blackmailed in a case like this. Basically I can't conceive the FBI would support (or be FORCED to support) a coverup UNLESS orders were coming down from the top, due to a really serious, heavy duty connection to some VERY upper-level and covert stuff. However, considering the extraordinary degree of deception and gameplaying in the Orwellian hell inhabited by covert intelligence/military operatives, the FBI, at least the PARTICULAR agents assigned to this PARTICULAR case, may well be playing things completely straight and may be completely unaware of either any secret government involvement in the Columbine Massacre OR of any coverup. However they are not the primary investigating agency in this case and do NOT have jurisdiction. The Jefferson County sheriffs are likely the ones enlisted to enact the hard core aspects of this coverup -- and if or when enough truth slips through the cracks, the plan is undoubtedly to let the local cops take the fall: chalk it up to gross incompetence and unpardonable, though "innocent" mishandling of the case in general by the woefully unprepared and generally ineffectual local cops (shades of JonBenet Ramsey!). Andy of Mayberry. I'm SO sure. My considered view after studying covert projects for a number of years is that The Columbine massacres and ensuing coverup stink to high heaven of involvement and conspiracy at the HIGHEST, and more importantly the MOST POWERFUL levels of government -- far higher than any local or county/state- level involvement, corruption or connection. That being the case, what kind of involvement and what kind of "project" could we possibly be talking about here? Massive social manipulation through utterly shocking, incomprehensible mayhem carried out by our young people. These mass murders by youngsters as a social phenomenon are absolutely unprecedented in human history. Those who enact scenarios such as Columbine, as well as such "operations" as the Oklahoma City bombing, numerous political assassinations and the like have been shown in nearly every case to be mind controlled "sleeper" operatives. The only type of agency which fits the bill in implementing such operations is a covert military/intelligence agency. When you know, as I do, that our government has been involved in covert mind control research and projects for OVER 40 YEARS, then the type of involvement becomes more clear. There is a tremendous amount of hard evidence to support these statements. The methods used to create a "Manchurian Candidate" have been in existence for a VERY LONG TIME. DRUGS (inc. Luvox, Prozac and the like) and EM/RF technologies are only some recent additions to the methods used. There is a literal mountain of evidence proving the existence of such projects; showing how "mind controlled" agents are utilized in carrying out these "operations"; and showing these unfortunate souls are USUALLY "recruited" (ha-ha; more like kidnapped) at a VERY young age and subjected to various forms of severe, carefully designed and devastatingly effective mind manipulation techniques -- often involving elements of "ritualistic" psycho-sexual abuse, drugs, EM/RF technologies, virtual reality programming, and the like. The result is the creation of a completely, separate, disassociated alternate personality within the targeted subject; a personality wholly and completely artificial, totally a product of what it's "masters" have made it -- a perfect, completely obedient agent, of whose existence the "host" personality is usually completely unaware. This "alternate" personality can be the most ruthless, unfeeling, uncaring, and inhuman being one could ever conceive of. Literally a monster, a living robot, an automaton of death. Reports indicate as many as TEN MILLION such "sleeper" agents are present in THIS COUNTRY ALONE. Lest some think this is to be wild nonsense, be assured that there is proof positive of this; for example as a result of US Senate hearings in 1978 into some of the more infamous of these "research" projects like "MK-ULTRA". This particular massive Nazi-type violation of all human rights was conducted under the direction of the OUR CIA by Ewen Cameron in Montreal, Canada and other locations throughout the 1960s and early 70s. There was MAJOR mind control experimenting going on; including dissolution of memory and TERMINAL sensory deprivation! This kind of evil is really pure Nazism and in fact this DR. Cameron OPENLY expressed his admiration for the methods and ruthless tactics of the Nazi butchers MANY TIMES!! What's even more incredible is that this demon was the PRESIDENT of the American Psychiatric Ass'n., the Canadian Psychiatric Ass'n., and the World Psychiatric Ass'n. AND he was TOTALLY connected to the CIA and the NSA. Based upon my knowledge of government mind control projects, the tactic utilized and the agendas these projects hope to implement, I can say with near certainty that: at least SOME of the other gunmen at Columbine were not students belonging to the "Trenchcoat Mafia." At least SOME of these murderers were senior mind control operatives on the scene of this carefully conceived and executed scenario designed to have a tremendous impact on the national psyche; there to ensure that everything went according to plan. Including the execution of Harris and Klebold. UPDATE: 5/14/99 I have conversed further with both Chris Wisher on 5/14/99 and his father on 5/13/99. It seems as though Chris is being a bit "his own man" as far as the interview goes. His parents are coming across as very reluctant to either talk to anyone about anything or to openly criticize or question the tactics of the Sheriff's Department. Dad said that as far as he knows investigators haven't closed the book on the case and may thus be reluctant to say publicly where they are actually focusing, which may be true: however, such would hardly explain the coercion of witnesses in private, a point he readily agreed to when I pointed it out to him. Chris indicated to me that he has not made his parents aware of his conversations with me and may not do so, as they are not in favor of speaking with the press, etc. Such is not the case with Chris. I did clarify a couple of points with him. The girl he knows who saw the large group (7-8 people) upstairs in trenchcoats with weapons was sure that at least some of the group WERE other students. There remains the possibility that some were not. Chris is sure that the individual he witnessed outside in black trenchcoat with a shotgun was NOT either Harris or Klebold. He also DID see both of them inside and they were not wearing masks. I asked Chris to pass my phone# and email around to people he knows who were witnesses, whose testimony is not in line with the "official" version, which he readily agreed to do. We ask WHY? Why would there be a coverup? Of course that is THE question. The only reason which truly makes ANY sense at all is that to some extent, in some way, there was involvement (in planning and execution) of this murder, madness and mayhem on the part of some kind of official, governmental agency at some level of government or other. Considering the incredibly shocking nature of the incident and the number of witnesses, etc. it seems inconceivable that it could be any other than an involvement by an covert, intelligence/military agency of the FEDERAL government. These groups so often used mind controlled agents to carry out their covert operations; incidents which are conceived, "designed" and "engineered" to have tremendous SUBLIMINAL and conscious psychological impact on the public; designed to shift and twist some of our most fundamental concepts of reality -- in a horrifyingly brutal way. There is MUCH evidence to show that this is fact IS a common tactic used by these subverters and despoilers of DEMOCRACY, who have hijacked our national government down the road to one world totalitarian government run by a New World Order. As a parent I am so disturbed by not ONLY the utter monstrosity which occurred at Columbine but the blatant, flagrant manipulation and coverup going on in the aftermath. It's absolutely UNTHINKABLE what an evil, wretched business is going on there now as indicated by the statements Chris made to me! That these students, who have had their lives shattered in an inconceivable way, are NOW being coerced by law enforcement to discard the truth, what they saw with their own eyes! I mean, is this really real? Yes -- the unbearable truth is that there IS a coverup going on, in broad daylight, in plain view upon the very blood and graves of our lost children. Part of what makes a coverup work in such situations is the tremendous resistance and revulsion any normal human being must overcome to even focus one's attention on the terrifying facts of the Columbine mayhem, let alone the raging evil while lies behind it. Itís human nature to want to avoid unpleasantness, and to accept an easy explanation when offered -- rather than put any effort into seeking the truth for ourselves! Consider well and fully the implications of what Chris Wisher has said. I urge all in the strongest possible way to do all you can from where YOU are to change this around. FORCE the local media to open it up again. It's your children and mine whose lives and future are at stake. We must not let a coverup be implemented. With so many witnesses to the truth, the efforts of all of us can prevent this. Please spread the truth about what Chris Wisher has said to every single person you can and urge them, as I've urged you, to think about their children and all that we as a country, as a HUMAN RACE, have to lose if this kind of coverup and conspiracy is allowed to stand. It's our children; it's our FUTURE. ©1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707.984.7178 ========================================================= Dear Recipients -- Following is my interview with Littleton witness Chris Wisher, excerpted from an article about the Columbine Tragedy entitled-- "THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW" The Littleton Massacreís Hidden Mind Control Connections The complete article and other information is at -- http://www.konformist.com/page1.htm and also at -- http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/quinn/Quinn_Colorado.html Following the interview is a series of (excerpts from) early news reports from the scene at Columbine High School on 4/20/99, with URLs for a number of these articles. ========================================================= INTERVIEW--LITTLETON WITNESS I have conducted a telephone interview with Columbine High School student and witness Chris Wisher on 5/7/99, and also spoke briefly with his father. I asked the father about Chrisís statement from the day of the tragedy that a person being arrested was one of the gunmen. Mr. Wisher said they had spent 2 1/2 hours with the FBI and apparently Mr. Wisher was reluctant to say too much as the investigation is ongoing. However, he DID say that Chris and the family are doing ìeverything they can to see that those responsible are brought to justice!î Obviously he is not referring to dead people here! I then spoke with Chris himself for about 40 minutes. Among his remarks and comments, Chris Wisher stated to me that he and certain companions are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that AT LEAST THREE perpetrators were involved in the mayhem at the school, and have given their testimony to that effect. This was directly witnessed by them outside the school building. One of those witnessed was the person in a white T-shirt throwing bombs onto the school roof. Another was someone OTHER THAN Harris or Klebold, OUTSIDE, in a black trenchcoat with a shotgun. SIMULTANEOUSLY they heard shots coming from INSIDE THE SCHOOL! Chris Wisher also stated that he is personally acquainted with another witness who witnessed a GROUP OF 7-8 ASSAILANTS in black trenchcoats with weapons UPSTAIRS at Columbine, when Harris and Klebold were DOWNSTAIRS! He told me that there were MANY OTHER WITNESSES TO THIS. One thing which Chris did point out was that in fact he was slightly misquoted by AP as saying, "he's one of the one's who shot at us," in reference to a student being arrested at the scene. What Wisher actually said was, "I think he's one of the one's who shot at us." The lack of certainty was due to the distance involved and to the fact that Wisher had personal knowledge of at least two or more assailants OTHER than Harris and Klebold. What's more the person Wisher WAS referring to was wearing as black trenchcoat while being arrested. Which means it was NOT the person in the black T-shirt ALSO seen and photographed by the press being arrested later in the afternoon of 4/20/99. The list of apparent "accomplices"--some of which are surely "senior control agents" --seems to just grow and grow. Mr. Wisher Jr. further stated that he is personally acquainted with a witness who was blatantly coerced by Sheriff's Dep't. investigators to CHANGE HER TESTIMONY REGARDING ADDITIONAL GUNMEN! Every time she stated that she saw more than three people they attempted to get her to CHANGE HER TESTIMONY. Whatís more I was told that a number of other witnesses Wisher knows have ALSO been coerced by investigators into changing their testimony. Chris Wisher stated that many Columbine students, including himself, WILL NOT RETURN TO SCHOOL, because some of the murderers are RIGHT THERE, ATTENDING SCHOOL! This is yet another control element of this diabolically clever operation. What an EXTRAORDINARY intimidation upon ANYONE who would say what they know; to have some of the perpetrators right there in front of you and know that investigating ìauthorities,î incomprehensibly, have ìCLEAREDî these murderers from any involvement; knowing that these participants in the slaughter are walking around with impunity and could obviously take measures to silence anyone. Chris stated to me that he and other students/witnesses KNOW that a coverup is going on in Littleton. He pointed out that the fact SWAT teams waited fours hours before entering Columbine High School literally proves that they and other authorities were well aware there were far more than two gun men inside. Furthermore Chris noted that he and other witnesses found it incomprehensible how 67 explosive devices could have been positioned in the building by just Harris and Klebold: and hard to figure how not one of these devices was seen by ANYONE, no matter how many people had positioned them. Other than what would be called circumstantial evidence the only solid evidence yet which I know of PROVING that investigators are intentionally COVERING UP facts, and are ACTIVELY PRESSURING WITNESSES TO CHANGE THEIR STORIES comes from my talk with Columbine student Chris Wisher. Wisher's statements to me are the single strongest proof so far that more than playing with the news being dribbled to the public, the "authorities" are actively, AGGRESSIVELY instituting a GENUINE coverup at this point in time. That being the case, though I deeply empathize with the unimaginable horror these families have been through, I believe it is far more horrifying for them and our country as a whole that a coverup about this gruesome madness is allowed to stand. How deep will their grief be then, knowing that the real truth has been buried; that some of the murderers of the kids have either disappeared or are, UNBELIEVABLY, back at school; their kids have been brutalized yet again by a system bent on twisting the truth; utterly spitting on the graves of those lost and protecting itself and it's apparent complicity to whatever degree at all costs? I strongly urge witnesses and their families to maintain their position an refuse to give in under pressure to ANYONE in ANY POSITION who attempts to manipulate and/or coerce them. I would also strongly urge anyone who knows witnesses and/or their families to bring up the subject of coercion of witnesses as soon as possible. Chris Wisher conveyed to me the pain and distress this OUTRAGEOUS and psychologically devastating coercion is causing MANY of the students he knows. What is this saying to our kids?--if on top of the savage horror they had to experience, they NOW have to see the truth about the murders of their friends and classmates covered up RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES, with the collusion of the press and the silent acquiescence of a befuddled, distracted, and manipulated nation? Indeed the bold-faced flagrancy of the coverup at this point in time would indicate that it is not ONLY intentional but is in fact itself PART OF THE OVERALL MESSAGE! To whit: ìyes, your children will be murdered in their schools by a veritable TEAM of executioners and the eyewitness testimony of their schoolmates will be erased and made to disappear from the ìofficialî story and from history--right before OUR eyes and at the direct instigation of our authorities." This is totally unthinkable and unbearable. WHERE IS THE PRESS ON THIS STORY AND WHAT KIND OF JOB ARE THEY DOING?? WHO DOES THE MEDIA REALLY WORK FOR? WHY IS THE JEFF. CO. SHERIFFíS DEPíT. COERCING WITNESSES? WHO DO THEY WORK FOR? © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707.984.7178 =================================================== NEWS ITEMS Confirmed--Other Gunmen The following excerpts from news articles from the scene at Columbine High School on 4/20/99 with accompanying URLs for these articles, show CLEARLY--based on EYEWITNESS STATEMENTS--that THREE OR MORE people OTHER than Harris and Klebold were PERPETRATORS in the murderous rampage that day. One person in a white T-shirt was identified as throwing explosives onto the school roof OUTSIDE at the SAME TIME as gunmen in BLACK COATS were murdering people INSIDE. Therefore the fact that Klebold or Harris had a white shirt under his coat is totally irrelevant. ANOTHER gunman INSIDE the school was identified by daughter of Kim Sanders as "not a student", "very ugly", with "bushy eyebrows." Neither Harris, Klebold nor the man in a white T-shirt. Yet ANOTHER individual in a BLACK T-shirt was photographed being arrested 4 HOURS AFTER the attack began. There are also eyewitness accounts of YET MORE GUNMEN in black coats inside the school, UPSTAIRS, while Harris and Klebold were DOWNSTAIRS. =================================================== THREE SUSPECTS -- A URL to CNN article citing AND 1 other arrest. http://www.cnn.com/US/9904/20/school.shooting.06/index.html =================================================== Sheriff: Gunmen at Colorado school were on ësuicide missioní As many as 25 people feared dead Latest Developments: Sheriff reports many fatalities, including TWO OF THREE SUSPECTS Explosives found at school Young man taken from school in handcuffs LITTLETON, Colorado (CNN) ó As many as 25 people, including TWO OF THREE SUSPECTS, are believed dead in a Denver-area high school shooting, police said. Sheriff Jeff Stone later said the number of deaths could be staggering. ìThere are possibly,as many as 25 fatalities,î he said. Police also said that bodies of two suspects were found in the library. ìWe had THREE NAMES, weíve got TWO BODIES that belong to two of those names up there, and the THIRD NAME ó that person was NOT IN THE SCHOOL,î said Jefferson County Sheriff John Stone. =================================================== THREE GUNMAN IN BLACK TRENCH COATS =================================================== Associated Press: 25 May Be Dead in School Shooting By Robert Weller. Tuesday, 4/20/99; 7:39 p.m. EDT: "LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) -- Three young men in fatigues and black trench coats opened fire at a suburban Denver high school Tuesday..." "A THIRD YOUNG MAN WAS LED AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL IN HANDCUFFS MORE THAN FOUR HOURS AFTER THE ATTACK, AND STUDENT CHRIS WISHER SAID; " (I THINK) HE'S ONE OF THE ONES WHO SHOT AT US.'" http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990420/V000079-042099-idx.html [ or see: http://www.cnn.com/US/9904/20/school.shooting.06/index.html ] =================================================== Arrest: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnA.jpg I saw another arrest of a guy in a black trench coat on MSNBC, which I didn't tape, and that guy was not the three above, NOR was it the one wearing a black T-shirt: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnC.jpg So there were 5 other "associates" at or near the school that were arrested on that bloody day. =================================================== SHOTS FROM GUNMAN OUTSIDE WHO RAN INSIDE SCHOOL =================================================== >From police radio dispatch during the siege on 911 tapes played on MSNBC (4/23/99 around 3:40 CT): POLICE DISPATCH: "Attention all units, 71 is under fire. He said the suspect just ran inside the building.... 71 is still under fire in the south lawn." =================================================== SMOKE/BOMB(?) IN PARKING LOT =================================================== Student on scene talking to 911 emergency operator: STUDENT: "There's like smoke going off in the parking lot right now. There are loud noises. I'm not sure exactly. A cop is pulling up." http://msnbc.com/news/262264.asp =================================================== SUSPECT IN BLACK T-SHIRT =================================================== Photograph from The Washington Post (4/21/99) shows friend of gunmen arrested on the scene (perhaps the same young man mentioned and figured by a student as a gunmen in an Associated Press report): http://www.erols.com/igoddard/littltnC.jpg =================================================== SIMULTANEOUS ATTACKS UPSTAIRS & DOWNSTAIRS =================================================== Cathy Parks is a student who escaped before the siege ended. She was interviewed on MSNBC during the siege at 1:26 pm central time, April 20. Transcript from tape of MSNBC broadcast: REPORTER TO NEWS ANCHOR: "I'm going to put you on the phone now with Cathy Parks. She's a freshman at Columbine. She was in the library at the time the gunmen came in and started shooting." CATHY PARKS: "I was in the library and there were noises downstairs.... And then these two guys came up [ into the library ] and they were shooting randomly and there was bombing, I guess, downstairs and people screaming." Two gunmen were upstairs in the library while bombs were going off downstairs. When she says "I guess" it's clear in hearing that she refers to "bombing," meaning she assumes it was bombing. =================================================== MORE SUSPECTS OFF-THE-RECORD =================================================== District Attorney for Littleton, Mark Pautler, appeared on CNN's "Burden of Proof" (12:45 pm ET, 4/23/99) and was asked if any witnesses had said they'd seen more than two gunman, he answered: "I'm not at liberty to answer that question." Which suggests there are such accounts. =================================================== The following note from Robert Morningstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), author of ìJustice For JFK,î indicates yet further inconsistencies--letís just say LIES--from ëofficialsî regarding key aspects of the Columbine High massacre. Dear John: ...You might also follow up on the Matthew De Peu interview which I saw on Fox News last Saturday with Shepard interviewing the 17 year old De Peu, son of a Deputy Sheriff De Peu, who was called by his son Matthew by cell phone from within the school. Matthew's account seemed insinuate to this listener that the father, Deputy De Pue, finished off the two gunmen after Matthew had identified them. 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