Am 17.03.2018 um 18:33 schrieb Benedikt Spranger:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 03:02:19 +0100
> Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:51:35 +0100 Benedikt Spranger
>> <b.spran...@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>> Package: consolekit
>>> Version: 0.4.6-6
>>> Severity: serious
>>>
>>> Dear Maintainer,
>>>
>>> please readd consolekit to the archive. Without consolekit the
>>> dependency to libpam-systemd as alternative to consolekit forces me
>>> to install systemd without any further benefit.
>>>
>>> Since my systems works fine before (and till now, since consolekit
>>> 0.4.6-6 is installed) the removal of consolekit from the archive
>>> causes a regression. As my understanding of init system
>>> dependencies this is a serious bug, since it forces a dependency to
>>> a special system init system without any need.   
>>
>> This is incorrect. The removal of consolekit does not enforce a switch
>> to a different init system. You are probably mistaking systemd with
>> systemd-sysv. Please read the package descriptions carefully.
> 
> Please read the bug report carefully. I do not claim it forces me to
> use, it forces me to *install* systemd due to libpam-systemd as
> alternative to consolekit. So it forces me to *install* a different
> init system:

You said, it "forces a dependency to a special init system".
And this is simply wrong.
You are mixing up systemd as init system with systemd-logind here.
systemd-logind is a maintained alternative to consolekit.
consolekit is dead upstream, unmaintained and has many design flaws.
That it breaks certain setups like in #888892 was just the last straw
that broke the camels back.

Keep in mind, I'm the former maintainer of consolekit, so I very much
know about its shortcomings.

Hope that clarifies.

Michael


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