Hi, On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 14:26 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Hello > > Apologies for the late reply. > > I have reviewed our why_debian page (https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian) > and I don't see the need of update to reflect non-free-firmware related > changes: > The sentence about Debian being 100% free can stay the same as Social Contract > §1 states; and the changes that were made to the Social Contract with the GR > are > not mentioned in our why_debian page.
Thanks for your input. Very true. Since Debian Reference quotes SC, I need to update Debian Reference. As for the discussion below for the text style (negative...), I decided to keep current text to avoid additional translation works for trivial stylistic points. > El 21/4/23 a las 18:43, Osamu Aoki escribió: > > Hi, > > > > > > On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 15:35 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > El 21 de abril de 2023 14:30:24 CEST, Osamu Aoki <os...@debian.org> > > > escribió: > > ... > > > > > > > So this why_debian page needs to be updated first. > > ... > > > > But in order to update this why_debian page properly, I think we need to > > > > wait SC change. (I CC debian-www@d.o ML) > > ... > > > > No agreement has been reached on SC text since that is the next planned > > > > action. > > > > > > > > > > This already happened: > > > > > > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/79d1ad80a8ac84afa8c8a224b81fb50c327e6b4f > > > > Oops. Thanks. > > > > > > Once the new SC text is accepted, I will update this §2.1.5 following > > > > why_debian page on www.debian.org. > > > > > > > > > > In a first pass I thought that the page why_debian didn't need an update. > > > I'll > > > look at this more closely, comparing with Debian Reference and other > > > updated > > > documents, during this weekend (if anybody wants to go ahead, I'm also > > > happy > > > to read proposals from others). > > > > I see we can still argue Debian is 100% FREE and leave the text as they are. > > > > The question is how to address things written in updated SC in the updated > > why_debian /debian-reference §2.1.5. I mean the following part: > > > > > > > Thus, although non-free works are not a part of Debian, we support their > > > use > > > and provide infrastructure for non-free packages (such as our bug tracking > > > system and mailing lists). The Debian official media may include firmware > > > that > > > is otherwise not part of the Debian system to enable use of Debian with > > > hardware that requires such firmware. > > > > > > Some short footnote may help. Since I don't like to use negated text, I may > > add > > text along following as footnote later. (This is my first thought. I may > > need > > to think more.) > > > > > > > Debian project supports use of non-free works and provides infrastructure > > > for > > > non-free packages (such as our bug tracking system and mailing lists). The > > > Debian official media may include firmware that is otherwise not part of > > > the > > > Debian system to enable use of Debian with hardware that requires such > > > firmware. > > > > But before doing this, I want to see how why_debian deals this.
