Hi,

This is a good point to rethink description.

On Sat, 2023-09-23 at 15:31 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> > > > Package: debmake-doc
> > > > Version: 1.17-7
> > > > Severity: minor
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Section 3.6 of the debmake doc says to run `adduser <your_user_name>
> > > > sbuild` but there should be `sudo` at the beginning of that command.

Yes.

But a new question is should I use `adduser`? It is not essential. Maybe it's
time to start using distribution non-dependent `usermod` here.

> > > > 2) It also says "Logout and login to check you are a member of sbuild
> > > > group using id command." I don't know how universal this is, but if a
> > > > user has done `loginctl enable-linger` or has a user-level systemd
> > > > daemon configured, logging out logging back in won't work; they still
> > > > won't be in the group. They would need to either reboot or run `kill
> > > > -TERM -1` (NOT as root) to make all of their processes die and thereby
> > > > get the user-level systemd to restart. I know you're trying to keep
> > > > the guide simple so you you may not want to get into the nitty-gritty
> > > > details, but perhaps it is worth mentioning that if logging out and
> > > > logging back in doesn't work the user should try restarting their
> > > > computer.

What I knew were

$ sudo usermod -aG sbuild USER
$ sudo shutdown -r now

-> This hard reboot from UEFI

or

$ sudo usermod -aG sbuild USER
$ sudo killall systemd

-> This is soft reboot only systemd

I don't know the latter has any bad side effects. Otherwise this is quicker.


Your trick seem to be cleaner
$ sudo usermod -aG sbuild USER
$ kill TERM -TERM -1


Considering -TERM is -15, this may be redundant.  Do you need this?


Kill manpage has 
      kill -9 -1
         Kill all processes you can kill.

-9 is SIGKILL.

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