Hi Wesley, David, > You keep saying `apt upgrade' yet your command was `apt full-upgrade'.
Yes, maybe it didn't express itself properly. After your suggestion about not using "apt full-upgrade" during this t64 migration, I followed your advice and used only "apt upgrade" for individual upgrades. I was referring to this comment you made below: > My advice to you is: don't expect full-upgrade to work until the transitioning > is done. You can do `apt upgrade' without too much hassle. If you feel like it > you can inspect individual upgrades possibilities via `apt list --upgradable' > and upgrade each package individually. Therefore, that's the advice I'm following right now. Now, If I type"apt upgrade" doesn't give me any option to update anything: # apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-6.6.15-amd64 linux-headers-6.6.15-common linux-image-6.6.15-amd64 linux-kbuild-6.6.15 Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages have been kept back: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly kaddressbook kmail knotes libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1 libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkpimaddressbookimportexport5 libldb2 libopenconnect5 libqt5webengine5 ppp samba-libs 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded. But, in some situations, as you mentioned, individual package upgrades can work and remove some problems. So what I did was to try some "apt upgrade" on individual packages from that list. This time I try the ppp package: # apt upgrade ppp Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-6.6.15-amd64 linux-headers-6.6.15-common linux-image-6.6.15-amd64 linux-kbuild-6.6.15 Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: <------- PACKAGE TO BE REMOVED libpcap0.8 The following NEW packages will be installed: libpcap0.8t64 The following packages have been kept back: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly kaddressbook kmail knotes libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1 libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkpimaddressbookimportexport5 libldb2 libopenconnect5 libqt5webengine5 samba-libs The following packages will be upgraded: ppp 1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 22 not upgraded. Need to get 511 kB of archives. After this operation, 15.4 kB disk space will be freed. , As you can see here, I'm typing "apt upgrade ppp" and it removes a package in this case: libpcap0.8 (sometimes more packages are removed). Which is good, because libpcap0.8 is replaced by libpcap0.8t64 (as expected in this t64 migration) but "apt upgrade ppp" is REMOVING a package (which contradicts the specification). @David: I will send you the file as you requested. Regards On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 5:44 PM Wesley Schwengle <wes...@schwengle.net> wrote: > > Hi Miguel, > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 05:09:47PM +0100, Miguel Angel Rojas wrote: > > > I do not know, at times I'm also wondering why it doesn't do it, but I > > didn't > > > take time to look at the code to understand what the resolver is doing. > > Also, > > > it was sort of expected. I think we can probably solve this is a more > > > controlled manner. With the current t64 transitioning in unstable it is > > > difficult to track down. Many updates so the situation now may differ > > from the > > > situation in an hour from now. > > > > Yes, it is confusing for me too. Without considering this t64 migration, > > “apt upgrade” should *NOT* remove any package (just upgrading a package > to > > a newer version or install new dependencies). But it is removing packages > > right now! i.e. again, with this t64 migration, it makes the old > libraries > > to be uninstalled and install the new *t64 version. > > > > Any thoughts why “apt upgrade” is removing packages even when > documentation > > says it shouldn’t? or is it a bug? > > You keep saying `apt upgrade' yet your command was `apt full-upgrade'. As > said > earlier, full-upgrade does indeed remove packages to be able to perform an > upgrade. I haven't seen `apt upgrade' do that. So I cannot comment on apt > doing > something wrong when it isn't :) > > Cheers, > Wesley >
