Quoting Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think you are letting your crankiness interfere with your logic. The > people arguing that qmail is non-free are a different group than those > that have anything to do with funding anything. If you can't adequately > maintain the package, say so instead of finding random third parties to > explode at. Being unable to maintain qmail strikes me as a good thing, > frankly, and nothing to be ashamed of.
Actually, to be exactly precise, it was a board decision to remove the qmail users from Debian's default passwd file. I worked with Wichert Akkerman on removing these users, and he is the one who told me the decision came from the board, which funds Debian. I'm not just making this stuff up ... Don't take my word for it, ask Wichert. Also read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/11/msg01176.html http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/base-passwd/base-passwd_3.4.1/changelog Again, I can't force them to add the users back in, and I most definitely can't fix everyone's system. The compromise made YEARS ago was to add a script that will add the users when the qmail-src package is installed to save the user the trouble of doing it themselves. The way qmail works in Debian is a hack. It's ugly, and it's not the most graceful thing, but it works. You both seem like smart guys, and I'm sure you can figure out how to add a user. I'm not the one who wrote qmail such that it requires specific users to be present before you build, hardcoding the uid/gid's into the compiled package, that was DJB. If you install qmail-src, or manually add the users, the package builds fine. If you don't like it, feel free to take it up with DJB, or mark the bug as sent-upstream. From my experience with DJB, you have a snowball's chance in hell at getting as much as an email back from him ... good luck! Debian and Qmail had a rather ugly parting of ways early on in the life of the distribution. At one point in time, all of the official Debian mailsevers were Qmail servers. After the unfortunate ugliness (which was before my time) qmail ended up the non-free red-headed bastard stepchild it is today. It languished for a while, and I ended up taking over the package for Phil Hands and got 1.03 hacked in. I have made 40 releases of qmail since I started managing the package, and take it quite seriously. Your childish comments at the end there made me chuckle. It's very typical of Debian package maintainers, and the #1 reason I stopped reading -private years ago. Cheers! Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
