On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:50:30AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 26/08/09 at 20:38 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 06:43:21PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > Package: quark
> > > Version: 3.21-3.3
> > > Severity: serious
> > > User: debian...@lists.debian.org
> > > Usertags: proposed-removal
> > > 
> > > Dear Maintainer,
> > > 
> > > While reviewing some packages, your package came up as a possible
> > > candidate for removal from Debian, because:
> > > 
> > >  * Last maintainer upload in 2005
> > >  * 3 NMUs since then
> > >  * package of limited usefulness (alternatives available, low popcon)
> > 
> > Hi Lucas, ...
> > 
> > Notice that i am unable to upload quark packages, since i was kicked out
> > of debian like so much dirt, as you well know.
> > 
> > The fact that other people have done NMUs as well as the fact that there
> > are no RC bug on the package seems to indeicate that there should be no
> > need to remove it.
> > 
> > Of the 3 important bugs : 
> > 
> >   #455803 : contains a patch, and awaits a debian maintainer willing to
> >   upload it.
> > 
> >   #200288 : is normal upstream behaviour.
> > 
> >   #501168 : i have no clue on this one, maybe one should look at the
> >   dependencies. A quick browse at them doesn't show anything triggering
> >   this behaviour directly.
> > 
> > As for the usefullness, i find it more usable than any of the other
> > possible alternatives, since it does what it needs to do well, with
> > minimal desktop cluttering.
> > 
> 
> The facts that:
>  * #455803 has been waiting for a sponsor for more than a year
>  * you write:
>     > As for orphaning it, well, as said, i called for
>     > replacer-maintainer when you guys kicked me out, and you can
>     > believe that i am not particularly interested in doing anything
>     > more, until debian takes a more reasonable stance with regard to
>     > me and how debian messed up this whole affair back then.
> 
> Make me thing that you no longer want to maintain it, and that the
> package should be orphaned. Is that true ?

Whatever.

> If yes, I will orphan it. It is not going to be removed very soon, but
> if nobody picks it up, it will be removed from Debian.

Alternatively, you could advocate for the end of the email ban, and
allow me to feel motivated to do this kind of maintenance again, even
though i cannot upload.

The punishment i suffer has lived past any kind of usefullness anyway,
it has been years, and i think it is past time that you guys forgive the
mistakes i made all that time ago. (But since this probably means
realizing that it was not fully my fault and that others probably messed
up as well, i doubt this will happen).

Notice though, that as i am willing to do the maintainership, but not
under the current situation where debian has officially said it doesn't
want to have anything to do with me, if nobody picks the package up, i
think you are all in violation of the social contract :)

Sadly,

Sven Luther



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