Le Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:01:06 +0200, Christian Perrier <bubu...@debian.org> a
écrit :
> reassign 550962 console-data
> retitle 55092 Please offer Bépo keyboard layout during D-I installs
> thanks
>
> Quoting Frederic Boiteux (fboit...@free.fr):
> > Package: kbd-chooser
> > Version: 1.48
> > Severity: normal
> >
> >
> > Quite a lot of people in France now uses the 'dvorak like' Bépo keyboard
> > layout
>
> Hmmm, really? We do not seem to live in the same country..:-)
Perhaps you didn't notice there one bépo user near you ? Yes, we're a small
community, but if you restrict to the Linux and moreover Debian users, I think
it's not neglectable… but your mileage may vary, comme on dit !
> > It would be helpful to be able to select the Bépo layout as early as
> > possible,
> > because it's very different from any other layout, and so it's very
> > difficult
> > to type when using the default french layout (azerty), and is error prone
> > when
> > typing the root password on a wrong layout !
> > I faced this problem when testing the Squeeze' daily debian-installer, but
> > I also uses debian-installer system (from Lenny) in rescue-mode, and i face
> > the same problem in this case.
> >
> > The Bépo layout is already defined in console-data and available in Xorg
> > (and so in console-setup), but I didn't found how to patch kbd-chooser to
> > let propose it …
>
> Because what you need to patch is console-data, not kbd-chooser.
I didn't thought like this…
> Still, the current set of proposed keymaps in D-I is volunterily
> restricted, in order to avoid cluttering the initrd (where space is
> constrained).
>
> So, more or less, over time, one rule of thumb has been applied: one
> language, one keymap (with exceptions when a multi-country language
> implies different keymaps depending on the country....the best example
> of this is French for which we have already four different keymaps).
>
> I frankly do not see the Bépo keymap used widely enough to deserve
> including it in the volunterily restricted set of keymaps offerred
> during installs.
I didn't know the initrd constraint :-(
> At least, this is a nearly definitive advice as long as we're using
> console-data in D-I and haven't switched to a complete use of
> console-setup.
At the end of Squeeze install, we have to choose a keyboard layout for
console-setup, and the Bépo keyboard is available, but the problem remains for
the start of install… and the Bépo layout is so different from another one,
it's very difficult to type a root password in the wrong layout ! I use this
layout since 2 or 3 years, and if I can type without looking at the keyboard,
I've absolutely forgotten the azerty layout, and can't remember its layout.
> That switch to c-s is underway but has been neglected in the last
> months....including by c-s main maintainer.....up to the point where
> I'm currently considering changing my own mind and push for us to go
> back the safe way and use console-data by default on squeeze installs.
Too bad, the system was indeed interesting, to have only one configuration for
console and X.
> If the switch to c-s is revived, then it might be much much easier to
> have a way to offer Bépo fr keymaps during the install (and probably
> not only this one...:-))
ok. So wait and see…
> >
> > As a side note, the french translation of Bépo layout's description in
> > console-setup is incorrect, and have been fixed in xkeyboard-config's 1.7
> > release, not yet packaged.
>
>
> That implies a rebuild of console-setup...once the new
> xkeyboard-config is uploaded to unstable. *that*, I can do as long as
> I'm notified of this.
Yes, but perhaps the xkeyboard-config maintainer waits for Xorg release before
to update its package… I'll wait a bit and suggest update if nothing happens.
Thanks for your feedback,
Fred.
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