On 1/10/21 10:20 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Bernd Zeimetz (2021-01-09 22:09:06)
>>> Since then, he continued develop under original project name
>>> Valentina, whereas Seamly2D virtually stalled with no substantial
>>> code changes , only superficial changes to build infrastructure,
>>> locales, and icons.
>>
>> well, compared to valentina it seems to have way more pull requests
>> and is at least very responsive to requests. Looking on valentina it
>> seems to be a one-man-show - more or less.
>
> Seems to me that Seamly2D is similarly a one-woman-show - difference
> (disregarding sexes) being that one is good with code and the other is
> good with words and people.
I think its a woman and a man, at least according to the commits.
There is a long list of issues with interesting ideas, more pushing
towards cloud and similar features.
> But I might be wrong. Or maybe code is largely "done" and only _need_
> smaller polishing.
Definitely not, there are some new features like keyboard shortcuts
(imho not chosen wisely, but thats my taste probably).
>>> I recommend that Debian does not carry Seamly3D, and encourage
>>> helping out with maintaining Valentina instead.
>>
>> Would have been nice to know about that after I've opened the RFP bug
>> - to be hones I haven't even been able to find valentina with apt,
>> maybe I've searched for the wrong words.
>
> For future sake, I recommend to share RFPs and ITPs to
> debian-devel@l.d.o as is the default for reportbug
Thats why I've used reportbug, would have expected that that happens.
> That said, you got a point about keywords - and curiously, you didn't
> add "sewing" to long description of Seamly2D either :-P
true. we've copied the same text ;)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_(software) has a summary, with
> link to a longer blog entry about it.
>
> Following trails from there, I found this post which seems essential:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20171216140149/http://valentinaproject.forumotion.me/t23-my-vision
I've searched a bit, also found
https://librearts.org/2017/12/valentina-seamly2d/
which is the mentioned blog entry.
> I found no similar information from Seamly2D side of the fork. If you
> find any then please do share.
Me neither.
> Seems to me that Seamly2D has created a stronger brand with more fans,
> whereas Valentina has more programmers involved (i.e. has "only one" or
> "one at all", depending how you look at it).
Was probably easy as the valentina-project page points to seamly now,
which is rather sad.
> I was hoping that the strong community of Seamly2D would lead to more
> sample documents than the relatively few shipped with Valentina, but I
> have so far not been able to locate any, and it seems all blog posts in
> Seamly2D shares only PDFs, no *source* patterns. Therefore I also am
> unaware how compatible Valentina and Seamly2D is in their document
> formats, if at all.
I also gave that a try: and they are not compatible anymore, although
seamly still says valentina format. Which is.. stupid.
It was easy to fix with
3676 sed 's,solidLine,hair,g' -i hike_and_fly_backpack.val
3678 sed 's,lineType,typeLine,g' -i hike_and_fly_backpack.val
I'd have expected a new file format name and extension.
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