On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:25:26 +0200 Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Penny wrote: > > Now, this breakage happens to be somewhat benign, in that without > > configuration, it does not function at all. But it is also somewhat > > difficult to test for many uses. Further, when the unconfigured > > system fails to start, the failure is completely silent. This adds > > to the problems. > What is difficult to test in ssl connections fail? I routinely test > mine with telnet-ssl or python scripts (though I remember something > about python and IMAP SSL not too long ago)... Well, you have to have a place to launch the scripts from. It the tunnel is at the edge, and listening only to the outward-facing interface, or it is listening only to localhost, and you don't want to have the testing tools on your firewall, or ... > Also, the silentness would IMHO be better fixed by adding a big fat > NOT to the init script (although anything more than a NOT will be > controversial as well...). Reminds me of something I should fix for my > packages... This is a completely different complaint, more of an aside that should never have been raised here. It has nothing to do with the change in format of configuration information, debconf-ing or not debconf-ing. It has to do with the experience of making repeated changes to the configuration file, while feeling under some time pressure, running/etc/init.d/stunnel restart, seeing no output, and thinking "silence is golden". You know, the usual Unix tradition. Jim Penny