+++ John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2014-02-12 01:36 +0100]: > On 02/12/2014 01:26 AM, Wookey wrote: > > Anyone trying to win an argument by suggesting that changing bits of my > > car is a _bad_ thing has a very cock-eyed view of the world. > > Ever heard of the German TUEV? > > Driving a car with arbitrary modifications is illegal in most > countries.
Actually Germany has unusually strict requirements in this area. In germany you are quite right that I can only build my campervan out of a whitelist of TUEV-approved parts. In the UK I can build it out of anything I damn well please (to a first approximation - there are stricter requirements for the gas piping, for example). The testing requirement is functionality-based, not on approved parts, which is a very important distinction. Having built a campervan I am very happy that I was doing it under the UK system. Apart from anything else it made it a _lot_ cheaper. I guess our views are coloured by cultural norms here. I was horrified when I found out about the strictures German camper-builders have to put up with. You apparently think they are reasonable. I would be very surprised to find that 'most' countries follow the German system, rather than the UK/US system, although there is a worrying trend in that direction over time. This is getting somewhat off-topic so to refer back to the context: I don't object to systemd technically, but I am worried about the world-view of some of its prominent proponents. By arguing the line you have taken in this sub-thread I am afraid you are just re-inforcing that bad impression. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140212114612.ge26...@stoneboat.aleph1.co.uk