Russ Allbery contributed earlier: > The reason why you're not seeing a lot > of constructive engagement with those points here is that most of us are > exhausted with this conversation and tired of repeating ourselves.
Yes, if it is really like that, I understand. But I'm also glad that this conversation reached me. > At this point, for better or worse, we're in the "we're going to do this > and see how it goes" phase of the discussion. And I hope it works well in the end, because I like the simplicity of systemd.. People like me usually do not have enough time to explore the bowels of the operating system so I literally depend on the debian developers to find the best way. It's not exactly a comfortable feeling (no offense meant) but I guess it just works like that. None of us can know it all :-). Thanks everybody for your comments, I'll be watching on. Jan On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote: > Jan Gloser <jan.renra.glo...@gmail.com> writes: > > > 1) I think some valid questions have been raised to which I have not > > seen ANY satisfactory answer that no doubt a person who truly > > understands the subject (unlike me) should be able to give. (though I > > might have missed some) > > Everything that's been raised in this thread apart from Oracle's alleged > SMF patent trolling was already raised and discussed in the giant > Technical Committee bug of doom. The reason why you're not seeing a lot > of constructive engagement with those points here is that most of us are > exhausted with this conversation and tired of repeating ourselves. > > People have a natural tendency to claim that they could be persuaded if > someone would just engage in the discussion that *they* want to have, as > opposed to the hundreds of discussions we've previously had, but the > reality is that just about everyone made up their mind a long time ago and > are unlikely to be persuaded by the perfectly-phrased counter-argument. > > At this point, for better or worse, we're in the "we're going to do this > and see how it goes" phase of the discussion. > > The Oracle patent trolling is new, at least to me, but Debian also has a > project-wide policy, already applied in many similar cases, of ignoring > things like that in the absence of considerably more evidence of legal > risk than we have to date. (And that legal risk, if it exists, would not > be discussed in public, due to the pathologies of patent law in at least > the United States and possibly elsewhere.) > > -- > Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87y4zs3fyc....@windlord.stanford.edu > >
