Le 19/10/2021 à 21:52, Shai Berger a écrit : > On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:37:14 +0200 (CEST) > Borden <borde...@tutanota.com> wrote: > >> 17 Oct 2021, 07:16 by b...@fineby.me.uk: >>> Taking note of the thread regarding updating to 5.23 in Sid, I'll be >>> holding off for a few days until migration to testing is complete. >>> >> I'm sure this has been answered before, but this seems to be a >> perennial issue wherever there's a major upgrade. Since Testing is >> supposed to be free of known system-breaking errors, why can't the >> packages be held back until the it's all ready? >> > This not only has been answered before in general -- it has been > effectively discussed on this very list, only last week. > > As a user, you can use "apt upgrade" or "aptitude safe-upgrade". With > either of these, you will not get half-system updates. If the whole > upgrade is ready, you'll get it; if it isn't, you will get suggestions > to either keep older versions of packages with updates, or drop the > not-yet-updated packages. Then, you should choose what to do according > to your taste and the selection of not-yet-updated packages. > > Asking for any non-stable flavor to act like stable is making the > packagers' work harder, and IMO as a grateful user who is not involved > in packaging, that is completely uncalled for. > > Hope this helps, > Shai. > > With apt upgrade on testing, you often get partial non working upgrade. I was recently told to "only do complete upgarde", but when I asked how to know the upgrade is compelte, I got no answer.
Tonight apt list --upgradable lists me bluedevil/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] drkonqi/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] kactivitymanagerd/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] kgamma5/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] kinfocenter/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] kmenuedit/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] kscreen/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] ksshaskpass/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] kwayland-integration/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] libkdecorations2-5v5/testing 4:5.23.0-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] libkf5screen-bin/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] libkf5screen7/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2] libpam-kwallet-common/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 all [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] libpam-kwallet5/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] plymouth-theme-breeze/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2] and apt upgrade would upgrade them giving a mix of 5.21 and 5.23