This must be one of those days when I feel the need to respond to more emails than I usually do.
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 08:14:41 AM The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-04-15 at 07:45, Neil McGovern wrote: > > If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on > > with my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > > innovate or do new things unless it is either: > > * 100% optional for people, or > > * made completely compatable with the old way of doing things Hmm, I'm trying to remember the phrase that describes when a discussion has gotten to the point that someone feels the need to bring up Hitler. ;-) I'm going to mention systemd -- (1) that surely is an example that Debian can innovate (or, at least, follow a non-native crowd (i.e., new to Debian)), and (2) maybe bringing systemd into a discussion is (should be considered) something just as disrepectful (harmful) as bringing Hitler into a discussion. > I think this might be overstating the case somewhat, even in that > scenario. Unfortunately, every attempt I've made to write out why, > explain my position, or argue my case, has gotten off into the weeds and > become clearly unhelpful even to my own eyes, and I don't want to > inflict that on this discussion. Sorry, I'm probably fertilizing the weeds. > > > Apologies if the frustration is showing, but hopefully you can see where > > this is coming from. > > Yes, this is definitely understandable. Thanks for clarifying that much, > at least. > > I do hope to be able to get such an explanation / list at some later > point, if only to help expand my own perspective about how things can be > seen and better understand the world, but I can certainly see why you > wouldn't want to do it now.