I agree. I also don't know if this is something we can just do with the DPL
or not.

The name master isn't great, as is ftp.

No one has suggested a name yet. If this was my proposal, I'd suggest the
debian archive team.

Why can't we just change the name without a GR between the ftpteam and DPL?

Paul

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 6:45 PM Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> wrote:

>
>
> On November 3, 2021 9:27:08 PM UTC, Felix Lechner <
> felix.lech...@lease-up.com> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I would like to rename the FTP Masters team—ideally via a General
> Resolution.
> >
> >Since the murder of George Floyd, the average fate of Black lives has
> >received much attention. Even the tech sector picked up the
> >"master/slave" topic over a year ago. [2][3][4]
> >
> >There should be little controversy. With a high pass rate, we could
> >all come together as a group—for our shared love of Debian and free
> >software!
> >
> >What do you think about the text below, please? Thanks for reading!
> >
> >Kind regards
> >Felix Lechner
> >
> >[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_George_Floyd
> >[2] https://www.wired.com/story/tech-confronts-use-labels-master-slave/
> >[3]
> https://www.cnet.com/news/master-and-slave-tech-terms-face-scrutiny-amid-anti-racism-efforts/
> >[4]
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/technology/racist-computer-engineering-terms-ietf.html
> >
> >* * *
> >
> >PROPOSED TEXT
> >
> >In recognizance of the awful history of slavery, the Debian project
> >will rename the "FTP Masters" team. For a long time, the word "master"
> >has been associated with the grave injustices of slavery. [1]
> >
> >While there is a tradition in computing to label primary equipment as
> >a "master" and replicated equipment as "slaves" [2] the use of the
> >word "masters" for a group of people with special privileges [3]
> >shocks the conscience.
> >
> >Within that context, the team's use of the title "wizard" [4] was also
> >problematic. The Ku Klux Klan and its spinoffs used the title "wizard"
> >to style high officials. [5] The team will likewise discontinue the
> >use of the term "wizard" to designate any current or former members.
> >
> >Nothing in this resolution shall impair the continued use of the
> >"master/slave" analogy for technical equipment.
> >
> >    "Without a struggle, there can be no progress." (Frederick Douglass)
> >
> >[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
> >[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master/slave_(technology)
> >[3] "The FTP masters can do everything in the archive.",
> >https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/FTPMaster
> >[4] "The FTP Wizard role consists of former team members",
> >https://ftp-master.debian.org/
> >[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard
> >
>
> I'd suggest if you want to change the name via GR, the text of the GR
> should give the new name.  Otherwise, it could drag on for a very long time.
>
> Regardless of how one might feel about changing the names, it should be
> done quickly if it's to be done.
>
> Scott K
>
>

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