On 5/16/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the solution is to:
 1. Make betas publicly available and widely known like our 1.1 betas were

+1

I think the notion that we can't announce and mirrors Betas is a
misunderstanding. We can mirror an announce *any* release, even an
Alpha.

After distribution as an Alpha or a Beta, we can upgrade the release
quality to GA, if appropriate. When a release series is very mature,
like 1.2.x is now, we might go straight to GA, but that's not
realistic for a new minor series.

 2. Do all testing and even the vote _before_ a code freeze and
subsequent release.  I personally won't waste my time doing a release
if people will only test it after the fact.

-1

I won't cast a quality vote on anything but a tagged and rolled,
downloadable distribution. Many of the problems we've had in the past
(not just this time, but with other series too) appear in the final
product and are not evident in a checkout.

The nature of the beast is that it takes anywhere from three to five
Betas before we hit a GA release. That's not just Apache Struts, but
all the ASF projects I've ever followed.

-Ted.

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