Will someone tell me that this is a joke: http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/dc0eda10d1c0cb0f805ced177678e2c2#.Uwuu2dxWmBU
Especially considering that such an "expert" also had this to say: "Sometimes, when [a project is taken over] by the Apache Foundation, it leads to some strange behaviors in terms of hiring committers, etc," Watters said. "The Apache Foundation is fantastic and it works for many projects, but we thought for this specific project -- which we want to be an industry standard that a lot vendors work on together -- this was the right approach." [1] WTF? 1. http://www.infoworld.com/t/paas/pivotal-spin-out-cloud-foundry-paas-separate-foundation-236913