If this proposal means v3.x replicators can't replicate one-shot / normal / non-continuous changes from 4.x+ endpoints, that sounds like a big break in compatibility.

I'm -0.5, tending towards -1, but mostly because I'm having trouble understanding if it's even possible - unless a proposal is being made to release a 3.2 that introduces replication compatibility with 4.x in tandem.

-Joan

On 2021-01-09 6:45 p.m., Nick Vatamaniuc wrote:
I withdraw my vote until I can get a clearer view. Nick would you mind
re-stating?

Not at all! The longer version and other considerations was stated in
my last reply to the discussion thread so I assumed that was accepted
as a consensus since nobody replied arguing otherwise.

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r45bff6ca4339f775df631f47e77657afbca83ee0ef03c6aa1a1d45cb%40%3Cdev.couchdb.apache.org%3E

But the gist of it is that existing (< 3.x) replicators won't be able
to replicate non-continuous (normal) changes from >= 4.x endpoints.

Regards,
-Nick

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:26 AM Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:

Wait, what? I thought you agreed with this approach in that thread.

I withdraw my vote until I can get a clearer view. Nick would you mind
re-stating?

-Joan

On 2021-01-08 11:37 p.m., Nick V wrote:
+1 for 1 through 3

-1 for 4  as I think the exception should apply to normal change feeds as well, 
as described in the thread

Cheers,
-Nick

On Jan 8, 2021, at 17:12, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:

Thanks, then it's a solid +1 from me.

-Joan

On 2021-01-08 4:13 p.m., Robert Newson wrote:
You are probably thinking of a possible “group commit”. That is anticipated and 
not contradicted by this proposal. This proposal is explicitly about not using 
multiple states of the database for a single doc lookup, view query, etc.
On 8 Jan 2021, at 19:53, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote:

+1.

This is for now I presume, as I thought that there was feeling about
relaxing this restriction somewhat for the 5.0 timeframe? Memory's dim.

-Joan

On 07/01/2021 06:00, Robert Newson wrote:
Hi,

Following on from the discussion at 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rac6c90c4ae03dc055c7e8be6eca1c1e173cf2f98d2afe6d018e62d29%40%3Cdev.couchdb.apache.org%3E
 
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rac6c90c4ae03dc055c7e8be6eca1c1e173cf2f98d2afe6d018e62d29@%3Cdev.couchdb.apache.org%3E>

The proposal is;

"With the exception of the changes endpoint when in feed=continuous mode, that 
all data-bearing responses from CouchDB are constructed from a single, immutable 
snapshot of the database at the time of the request.”

Paul Davis summarised the discussion in four bullet points, reiterated here for 
context;

1. A single CouchDB API call should map to a single FDB transaction
2. We absolutely do not want to return a valid JSON response to any
streaming API that hit a transaction boundary (because data
loss/corruption)
3. We're willing to change the API requirements so that 2 is not an issue.
4. None of this applies to continuous changes since that API call was
never a single snapshot.


Please vote accordingly, we’ll run this as lazy consensus per the bylaws 
(https://couchdb.apache.org/bylaws.html#lazy 
<https://couchdb.apache.org/bylaws.html#lazy>)

B.


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