Thanks Folks, Renamed the field to `offsets_status`.
And now that we have 3 binding votes, I will update the KIP status to `accepted` . Thanks again for all the valuable feedback. Ashwin On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 2:42 PM Chris Egerton <fearthecel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yash, > > Thanks for the follow-up, I like the benefits it's yielded. I too think > "offsets_status" would be a better name for the response field. > @Ashwin--thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 03:08 Ashwin <apan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > > > Thanks Yash, > > > > Yes , I think we can use @JsonInclude(JsonInclude.Include.NON_NULL) to > > exclude “initial_offsets_response” from the create response if offset is > > not specified. > > > > I’ll close the voting this week , if there are no further comments. > > > > Thanks for voting, everyone! > > > > > > Ashwin > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 11:20 PM Yash Mayya <yash.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > I followed up with Ashwin offline and I believe he wanted to take a > > closer > > > look at the `ConnectorInfoWithInitialOffsetsResponse` stuff he > mentioned > > in > > > the previous email and whether or not that'll be required > (alternatively > > > using some Jackson JSON tricks). However, that's an implementation > detail > > > and shouldn't hold up the KIP. Bikeshedding a little on the > > > "initial_offsets_response" field - I'm wondering if something like > > > "offsets_status" might be more appropriate, what do you think? I don't > > > think the current name is terrible though, so I'm +1 (binding) if > > everyone > > > else agrees that it's suitable. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yash > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 9:51 PM Chris Egerton <chr...@aiven.io.invalid> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Wanted to bump this and see if it looks good enough for a third vote. > > > Yash, > > > > any thoughts? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 2:55 AM Ashwin <apan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reviewing this KIP, Yash. > > > > > > > > > > Could you please elaborate on the cleanup steps? For instance, if > we > > > > > > encounter an error after wiping existing offsets but before > writing > > > the > > > > > new > > > > > > offsets, there's not really any good way to "revert" the wiped > > > offsets. > > > > > > It's definitely extremely unlikely that a user would expect the > > > > previous > > > > > > offsets for a connector to still be present (by creating a new > > > > connector > > > > > > with the same name but without initial offsets for instance) > after > > > > such a > > > > > > failed operation, but it would still be good to call this out > > > > > explicitly. I > > > > > > presume that we'd want to wipe the newly written initial offsets > if > > > we > > > > > fail > > > > > > while writing the connector's config however? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree - I have clarified the cleanup here - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-995%3A+Allow+users+to+specify+initial+offsets+while+creating+connectors#KIP995:Allowuserstospecifyinitialoffsetswhilecreatingconnectors-ProposedChanges > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > The `PATCH /connectors/{connector}/offsets` and `DELETE > > > > > > /connectors/{connector}/offsets` endpoints have two possible > > success > > > > > > messages in the response depending on whether or not the > connector > > > > plugin > > > > > > has implemented the `alterOffsets` connector method. Since we're > > > > > proposing > > > > > > to utilize the same offset validation during connector creation > if > > > > > initial > > > > > > offsets are specified, I think it would be valuable to surface > > > similar > > > > > > information to users here as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing this out. I have updated the response to > include > > a > > > > new > > > > > field “initial_offsets_response” which will contain the response > > based > > > on > > > > > whether the connector implements alterOffsets or not. This also > means > > > > that > > > > > if initial_offsets is set in the ConnectorCreate request, we will > > > return > > > > a > > > > > new REST entity (ConnectorInfoWithInitialOffsetsResponse ?) which > > will > > > > be a > > > > > child class of ConnectorInfo. > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/connect/runtime/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/connect/runtime/rest/entities/ConnectorInfo.java#L28-L28 > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Ashwin > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 4:48 PM Yash Mayya <yash.ma...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ashwin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Connect runtime encounters an error in any of these steps, > > > > > > > it will cleanup (if required) and return an error response > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please elaborate on the cleanup steps? For instance, if > > we > > > > > > encounter an error after wiping existing offsets but before > writing > > > the > > > > > new > > > > > > offsets, there's not really any good way to "revert" the wiped > > > offsets. > > > > > > It's definitely extremely unlikely that a user would expect the > > > > previous > > > > > > offsets for a connector to still be present (by creating a new > > > > connector > > > > > > with the same name but without initial offsets for instance) > after > > > > such a > > > > > > failed operation, but it would still be good to call this out > > > > > explicitly. I > > > > > > presume that we'd want to wipe the newly written initial offsets > if > > > we > > > > > fail > > > > > > while writing the connector's config however? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Validate the offset using the same checks performed while > > > > > > > altering connector offsets (PATCH /$connector/offsets ) as > > > > > > > specified in KIP-875 > > > > > > > > > > > > The `PATCH /connectors/{connector}/offsets` and `DELETE > > > > > > /connectors/{connector}/offsets` endpoints have two possible > > success > > > > > > messages in the response depending on whether or not the > connector > > > > plugin > > > > > > has implemented the `alterOffsets` connector method. Since we're > > > > > proposing > > > > > > to utilize the same offset validation during connector creation > if > > > > > initial > > > > > > offsets are specified, I think it would be valuable to surface > > > similar > > > > > > information to users here as well. Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Yash > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 3:31 PM Ashwin > > <apan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I please get one more binding vote, so that the KIP is > > > approved ? > > > > > > > Thanks for the votes Chris and Mickael ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Ashwin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 3:55 PM Mickael Maison < > > > > > mickael.mai...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ashwin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 (binding), thanks for the KIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mickael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:54 PM Chris Egerton > > > > <chr...@aiven.io.invalid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP! +1 (binding) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 9:35 AM Ashwin > > > > <apan...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote on KIP-995. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-995%3A+Allow+users+to+specify+initial+offsets+while+creating+connectors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion thread - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/msorbr63scglf4484yq764v7klsj7c4j > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashwin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
