Yeah I can see that WRT examples.
On Mon, 2022-07-11 at 09:55 -0700, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Sorry, I don’t mean to confuse.
> Since we don’t have examples or documentation, and trying to pick
> between a bunch of people’s personal favorite GUI framework /
> programming language on a list is tiresome, I’m just recommending
> doing the doc, examples in each language, and letting people write a
> GUI in whatever they fancy ( outside the project ). Then a person may
> look at:
> * dependencies
> * what it takes to build
> * code maintainability
> * style and actually GUI
> for each IRL.
>
>
>
> From: Stephen Snow <s40...@gmail.com>
> Reply: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> Date: July 11, 2022 at 08:18:22
> To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Implement a Java GUI application for
> browsing PLCs with PLC4X
>
>
> > So I took this to be a discussion about making a graphical browser
> > of
> > connected PLC's that PLC4X api was being used to develop some app
> > with
> > by the dev. In this case using PLC4X's discovery api as part of
> > this
> > tool. Am I missing something here? Otto seems to be referring to
> > implementation examples (which I think is a must for the doc's in
> > any
> > case).
> >
> > In the spirit of using the Netbeans IDE (which I do) I have a
> > module
> > created which I am ready to add PLC4X functionality to, actually
> > the
> > maven bits are done, I just need to implement. Is there any doc for
> > the
> > discovery lib? Or could someone familiar with it suggest a starting
> > point for me?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 10:40 -0700, Otto Fowler wrote:
> > > you say that like it is a bad thing?
> > >
> > > From: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > > <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > > Reply: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > Date: July 7, 2022 at 18:46:01
> > > To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Implement a Java GUI application for
> > > browsing PLCs
> > > with PLC4X
> > >
> > > So a hello-plc4x-discovery-and-browse using the default api?...
> > That
> > > should
> > > be a matter of minutes to Implement.
> > >
> > > Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 6:17:49 PM
> > > To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Implement a Java GUI application for
> > browsing
> > > PLCs
> > > with PLC4X
> > >
> > > I would make the simplest possible example application, in each
> > > language
> > > plc4x supports, just to discover and show the browse ‘tree’ or
> > > whatever.
> > > Maybe console.
> > >
> > > Then with these examples of API usage, people can have at it and
> > > there can
> > > be a bake off.
> > >
> > > It will be easier to agree on what a ‘sample.go’, sample.rust,
> > > sample.python etc would look like, and a minimal set of
> > functionality
> > > than
> > > to pick a language and environment etc.
> > >
> > > the samples have to build everywhere plc4x builds and for
> > everyone,
> > > the
> > > contrib/ui things can be optional so that we don’t have to setup
> > > anything
> > > exotic unless we want to.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > > <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > > Reply: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > Date: June 26, 2022 at 07:11:52
> > > To: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Implement a Java GUI application for
> > browsing
> > > PLCs
> > > with PLC4X
> > >
> > > Hi Niclas,
> > >
> > > yeah ... I agree ... if the core of such a tool is created the
> > right
> > > way,
> > > adding integration-wrappers into other tools should be easy. I
> > guess
> > > sticking to an "as standard as possible ui technology" would help
> > > with
> > > this. So, I could imagine that it's easier to integrate a JavaFX
> > ui
> > > into
> > > Netbeans, Eclips and IntelliJ than any client-server based web-ui
> > > tech.
> > > br/> <
> > > Also, could we consider having one logic core and multiple ui
> > > implementations.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> br/>Sent:: Samstag, 25.
> > > Juni 2022
> > > 07:59
> > > To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Implement a Java GUI application for
> > browsing
> > > PLCs
> > > with PLC4X
> > >
> > > On 2022-06-23 14:36, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > > > I agree that if we use NetBeans it’s definitiely “eating our
> > own
> > > > (Apache) dogfood” … and yes it’s quite well established.
> > > > Probably you can create Standalone Applications with Netbeans
> > > > similar
> > > br/>> to how you can do that with Eclipse. <
> > > > However, do I imagine, that this would probably be a bit of
> > > > overkill
> > > br/>> for this usecase. <
> > >
> > > There is a case to be made for having these kinds of tools being
> > part
> > > of an
> > > IDE, i.e. a plugin rather than an "App on NB".
> > > So, by being a little clever, the clickable-jar could also be
> > > Netbeans
> > > plugin compatible, IF that is wanted by people. It is mostly a
> > matter
> > > of
> > > having hooks for user input that can be hooked into NB's system
> > > rather than
> > > handled directly. Minor thing if one take care of it up front.
> > > And if it is then a plugin, then it is up to someone else to
> > package
> > > that
> > > as a dedicated NB app, if such desires exist.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Niclas
> >
