It shouldn't change the data source api at all because data sources create RDD[Row], and that gets converted into a DataFrame automatically (previously to SchemaRDD).
https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/sql/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/sql/sources/interfaces.scala One thing that will break the data source API in 1.3 is the location of types. Types were previously defined in sql.catalyst.types, and now moved to sql.types. After 1.3, sql.catalyst is hidden from users, and all public APIs have first class classes/objects defined in sql directly. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Evan Chan <velvia.git...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey guys, > > How does this impact the data sources API? I was planning on using > this for a project. > > +1 that many things from spark-sql / DataFrame is universally > desirable and useful. > > By the way, one thing that prevents the columnar compression stuff in > Spark SQL from being more useful is, at least from previous talks with > Reynold and Michael et al., that the format was not designed for > persistence. > > I have a new project that aims to change that. It is a > zero-serialisation, high performance binary vector library, designed > from the outset to be a persistent storage friendly. May be one day > it can replace the Spark SQL columnar compression. > > Michael told me this would be a lot of work, and recreates parts of > Parquet, but I think it's worth it. LMK if you'd like more details. > > -Evan > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com> wrote: > > Alright I have merged the patch ( > https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/4173 > > ) since I don't see any strong opinions against it (as a matter of fact > > most were for it). We can still change it if somebody lays out a strong > > argument. > > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Matei Zaharia <matei.zaha...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> The type alias means your methods can specify either type and they will > >> work. It's just another name for the same type. But Scaladocs and such > will > >> show DataFrame as the type. > >> > >> Matei > >> > >> > On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Dirceu Semighini Filho < > >> dirceu.semigh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Reynold, > >> > But with type alias we will have the same problem, right? > >> > If the methods doesn't receive schemardd anymore, we will have to > change > >> > our code to migrade from schema to dataframe. Unless we have an > implicit > >> > conversion between DataFrame and SchemaRDD > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2015-01-27 17:18 GMT-02:00 Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com>: > >> > > >> >> Dirceu, > >> >> > >> >> That is not possible because one cannot overload return types. > >> >> > >> >> SQLContext.parquetFile (and many other methods) needs to return some > >> type, > >> >> and that type cannot be both SchemaRDD and DataFrame. > >> >> > >> >> In 1.3, we will create a type alias for DataFrame called SchemaRDD to > >> not > >> >> break source compatibility for Scala. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Dirceu Semighini Filho < > >> >> dirceu.semigh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Can't the SchemaRDD remain the same, but deprecated, and be removed > in > >> the > >> >>> release 1.5(+/- 1) for example, and the new code been added to > >> DataFrame? > >> >>> With this, we don't impact in existing code for the next few > releases. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> 2015-01-27 0:02 GMT-02:00 Kushal Datta <kushal.da...@gmail.com>: > >> >>> > >> >>>> I want to address the issue that Matei raised about the heavy > lifting > >> >>>> required for a full SQL support. It is amazing that even after 30 > >> years > >> >>> of > >> >>>> research there is not a single good open source columnar database > like > >> >>>> Vertica. There is a column store option in MySQL, but it is not > nearly > >> >>> as > >> >>>> sophisticated as Vertica or MonetDB. But there's a true need for > such > >> a > >> >>>> system. I wonder why so and it's high time to change that. > >> >>>> On Jan 26, 2015 5:47 PM, "Sandy Ryza" <sandy.r...@cloudera.com> > >> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Both SchemaRDD and DataFrame sound fine to me, though I like the > >> >>> former > >> >>>>> slightly better because it's more descriptive. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Even if SchemaRDD's needs to rely on Spark SQL under the covers, > it > >> >>> would > >> >>>>> be more clear from a user-facing perspective to at least choose a > >> >>> package > >> >>>>> name for it that omits "sql". > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I would also be in favor of adding a separate Spark Schema module > for > >> >>>> Spark > >> >>>>> SQL to rely on, but I imagine that might be too large a change at > >> this > >> >>>>> point? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -Sandy > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Matei Zaharia < > >> >>> matei.zaha...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> (Actually when we designed Spark SQL we thought of giving it > another > >> >>>>> name, > >> >>>>>> like Spark Schema, but we decided to stick with SQL since that > was > >> >>> the > >> >>>>> most > >> >>>>>> obvious use case to many users.) > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Matei > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Matei Zaharia < > >> >>> matei.zaha...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> While it might be possible to move this concept to Spark Core > >> >>>>> long-term, > >> >>>>>> supporting structured data efficiently does require quite a bit > of > >> >>> the > >> >>>>>> infrastructure in Spark SQL, such as query planning and columnar > >> >>>> storage. > >> >>>>>> The intent of Spark SQL though is to be more than a SQL server -- > >> >>> it's > >> >>>>>> meant to be a library for manipulating structured data. Since > this > >> >>> is > >> >>>>>> possible to build over the core API, it's pretty natural to > >> >>> organize it > >> >>>>>> that way, same as Spark Streaming is a library. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Matei > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> "The context is that SchemaRDD is becoming a common data format > >> >>> used > >> >>>>> for > >> >>>>>>>> bringing data into Spark from external systems, and used for > >> >>> various > >> >>>>>>>> components of Spark, e.g. MLlib's new pipeline API." > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> i agree. this to me also implies it belongs in spark core, not > >> >>> sql > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Michael Malak < > >> >>>>>>>> michaelma...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> And in the off chance that anyone hasn't seen it yet, the Jan. > >> >>> 13 > >> >>>> Bay > >> >>>>>> Area > >> >>>>>>>>> Spark Meetup YouTube contained a wealth of background > >> >>> information > >> >>>> on > >> >>>>>> this > >> >>>>>>>>> idea (mostly from Patrick and Reynold :-). > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWppYPWznSQ > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ > >> >>>>>>>>> From: Patrick Wendell <pwend...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>>>>> To: Reynold Xin <r...@databricks.com> > >> >>>>>>>>> Cc: "dev@spark.apache.org" <dev@spark.apache.org> > >> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 4:01 PM > >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: renaming SchemaRDD -> DataFrame > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> One thing potentially not clear from this e-mail, there will > be > >> >>> a > >> >>>> 1:1 > >> >>>>>>>>> correspondence where you can get an RDD to/from a DataFrame. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Reynold Xin < > >> >>> r...@databricks.com> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> We are considering renaming SchemaRDD -> DataFrame in 1.3, > and > >> >>>>> wanted > >> >>>>>> to > >> >>>>>>>>>> get the community's opinion. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> The context is that SchemaRDD is becoming a common data > format > >> >>>> used > >> >>>>>> for > >> >>>>>>>>>> bringing data into Spark from external systems, and used for > >> >>>> various > >> >>>>>>>>>> components of Spark, e.g. MLlib's new pipeline API. We also > >> >>> expect > >> >>>>>> more > >> >>>>>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>>> more users to be programming directly against SchemaRDD API > >> >>> rather > >> >>>>>> than > >> >>>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>> core RDD API. SchemaRDD, through its less commonly used DSL > >> >>>>> originally > >> >>>>>>>>>> designed for writing test cases, always has the data-frame > like > >> >>>> API. > >> >>>>>> In > >> >>>>>>>>>> 1.3, we are redesigning the API to make the API usable for > end > >> >>>>> users. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> There are two motivations for the renaming: > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> 1. DataFrame seems to be a more self-evident name than > >> >>> SchemaRDD. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> 2. SchemaRDD/DataFrame is actually not going to be an RDD > >> >>> anymore > >> >>>>>> (even > >> >>>>>>>>>> though it would contain some RDD functions like map, flatMap, > >> >>>> etc), > >> >>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>>> calling it Schema*RDD* while it is not an RDD is highly > >> >>> confusing. > >> >>>>>>>>> Instead. > >> >>>>>>>>>> DataFrame.rdd will return the underlying RDD for all RDD > >> >>> methods. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that very few users program directly > >> >>> against > >> >>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>> SchemaRDD API at the moment, because they are not well > >> >>> documented. > >> >>>>>>>>> However, > >> >>>>>>>>>> oo maintain backward compatibility, we can create a type > alias > >> >>>>>> DataFrame > >> >>>>>>>>>> that is still named SchemaRDD. This will maintain source > >> >>>>> compatibility > >> >>>>>>>>> for > >> >>>>>>>>>> Scala. That said, we will have to update all existing > >> >>> materials to > >> >>>>> use > >> >>>>>>>>>> DataFrame rather than SchemaRDD. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >> > >> >
