I have wondered whether we should sort of deprecated it more
officially, since otherwise I think people have the reasonable
expectation based on the current code that Spark intends to support
"complete" Debian packaging as part of the upstream build. Having
something that's sort-of maintained but no one is helping review and
merge patches on it or make it fully functional, IMO that doesn't
benefit us or our users. There are a bunch of other projects that are
specifically devoted to packaging, so it seems like there is a clear
separation of concerns here.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Mark Hamstra <m...@clearstorydata.com> wrote:
>>
>> it sounds like nobody intends these to be used to actually deploy Spark
>
>
> I wouldn't go quite that far.  What we have now can serve as useful input
> to a deployment tool like Chef, but the user is then going to need to add
> some customization or configuration within the context of that tooling to
> get Spark installed just the way they want.  So it is not so much that the
> current Debian packaging can't be used as that it has never really been
> intended to be a completely finished product that a newcomer could, for
> example, use to install Spark completely and quickly to Ubuntu and have a
> fully-functional environment in which they could then run all of the
> examples, tutorials, etc.
>
> Getting to that level of packaging (and maintenance) is something that I'm
> not sure we want to do since that is a better fit with Bigtop and the
> efforts of Cloudera, Horton Works, MapR, etc. to distribute Spark.
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a straw poll to assess whether there is support to keep and
>> fix, or remove, the Debian packaging-related config in Spark.
>>
>> I see several oldish outstanding JIRAs relating to problems in the
>> packaging:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-1799
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-2614
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3624
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4436
>> (and a similar idea about making RPMs)
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-665
>>
>> The original motivation seems related to Chef:
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-2614?focusedCommentId=14070908&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-14070908
>>
>> Mark's recent comments cast some doubt on whether it is essential:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/4277#issuecomment-72114226
>>
>> and in recent conversations I didn't hear dissent to the idea of removing
>> this.
>>
>> Is this still useful enough to fix up? All else equal I'd like to
>> start to walk back some of the complexity of the build, but I don't
>> know how all-else-equal it is. Certainly, it sounds like nobody
>> intends these to be used to actually deploy Spark.
>>
>> I don't doubt it's useful to someone, but can they maintain the
>> packaging logic elsewhere?
>>
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