Sad to hear that. While I understand such thing can be happened for any
project, it feels me to a kind of bad sign that non-experimental major
feature which has no alternative is getting lost on interest.

I also fully agree that there isn't a way to make people work on it (I also
had encountered similar situation in most of projects which I involved as
one of committers or PMC members), but things might get better based on how
we deal with such situation: given there're some people (not only me) would
like to work on SS and they're feeling stuck.

I really appreciate your help on trying to review PRs which area you're not
comfortable. I understand that's not the easy one. Thanks for doing that!

2019년 1월 14일 (월) 오전 8:19, Sean Owen <sro...@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> Yes you're preaching to the choir here. SS does seem somewhat
> abandoned by those that have worked on it. I have also been at times
> frustrated that some areas fall into this pattern.
>
> There isn't a way to make people work on it, and I personally am not
> interested in it nor have a background in SS.
>
> I did leave some comments on your PR and will see if we can get
> comfortable with merging it, as I presume you are pretty knowledgeable
> about the change.
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 4:55 PM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sean, this is actually a fail-back on pinging committers. I know who can
> review and merge in SS area, and pinged to them, didn't work. Even there's
> a PR which approach was encouraged by committer and reviewed the first
> phase, and no review.
> >
> > That's not the first time I have faced the situation, and I used the
> fail-back approach at that time. (You can see there was no response even in
> the mail thread.) Not sure which approach worked.
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c61f32249949b1ff1b265c1a7148c2ea7eda08891e3016fb24008561@%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E
> >
> > I've observed that only (critical) bugfixes are being reviewed and
> merged in time for SS area. For other stuffs like new features and
> improvements, both discussions and PRs were pretty less popular from
> committers: though there was even participation/approve from non-committer
> community. I don't think SS is the thing to be turned into maintenance.
> >
> > I guess PMC members should try to resolve such situation, as it will
> (slowly and quietly) make some issues like contributors leaving, module
> stopped growing up, etc.. The problem will grow up like a snowball: getting
> bigger and bigger. I don't mind if there's no interest on both contributors
> and committers for such module, but SS is not. Maybe either other
> committers who weren't familiar with should try to get familiar and cover
> the area, or the area needs more committers.
> >
> > -Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> >
> > 2019년 1월 13일 (일) 오후 11:37, Sean Owen <sro...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> >>
> >> Jungtaek, the best strategy is to find who wrote the code you are
> >> modifying (use Github history or git blame) and ping them directly on
> >> the PR. I don't know this code well myself.
> >> It also helps if you can address why the functionality is important,
> >> and describe compatibility implications.
> >>
> >> Most PRs are not merged, note. Not commenting on this particular one,
> >> but it's not a 'bug' if it's not being merged.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:29 AM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm sorry but let me remind this, as non-SS PRs are being reviewed
> accordingly, whereas many of SS PRs (regardless of who create) are still
> not reviewed and merged in time.
> >> >
> >> > 2019년 1월 3일 (목) 오전 7:57, Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> >> >>
> >> >> Spark devs, happy new year!
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to remind this kindly, since there was actually no
> review after initiating the thread.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> >> >>
> >> >> 2018년 12월 12일 (수) 오후 11:12, Vaclav Kosar <ad...@vaclavkosar.com>님이
> 작성:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am also waiting for any finalization of my PR [3]. I seems that
> SS PRs are not being reviewed much these days.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [3] https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/21919
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 12. 12. 18 14:37, Dongjin Lee wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If it is possible, could you review my PR on Kafka's header
> functionality[^1] also? It was added in Kafka 0.11.0.0 but still not
> supported in Spark.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Dongjin
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [^1]: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/22282
> >> >>> [^2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-4208
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi devs,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Would I kindly ask for reviewing on PRs for Structured Streaming?
> I have 5 open pull requests on SS side [1] (earliest PR was opened around 4
> months so far), and there looks like couple of PR for others [2] which
> looks good to be reviewed, too.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks in advance,
> >> >>>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 1.
> https://github.com/apache/spark/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+author%3AHeartSaVioR+%5BSS%5D
> >> >>>> 2.
> https://github.com/apache/spark/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+%5BSS%5D+
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Dongjin Lee
> >> >>>
> >> >>> A hitchhiker in the mathematical world.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> github: github.com/dongjinleekr
> >> >>> linkedin: kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
> >> >>> speakerdeck: speakerdeck.com/dongjin
>

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