+1. To Shani’s point, there are multiple OSS projects that use the free Slack version - top of mind include Delta, Presto, Flink, Trino, Datahub, MLflow, etc.
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 14:15 <shani.alis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I think we should remain on a free program in slack. > > In my option the free program is more then enough, the only down side is > we could only see the last 90 days messages. > > From what I know the Airflow community (which has strong active community > in slack) also use the free program (You can tell by the 90 days limit > notice in their workspace). > > You can find the pricing and features comparison between the slack > programs here <https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/pricing> . > > Have a great day, > Shani > > On 30 Mar 2023, at 23:38, Mridul Muralidharan <mri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for flagging the concern Dongjoon, I was not aware of the > discussion - but I can understand the concern. > Would be great if you or Matei could update the thread on the result of > deliberations, once it reaches a logical consensus: before we set up > official policy around it. > > Regards, > Mridul > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:23 PM Bjørn Jørgensen <bjornjorgen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I like the idea of having a talk channel. It can make it easier for >> everyone to say hello. Or to dare to ask about small or big matters that >> you would not have dared to ask about before on mailing lists. >> But then there is the price and what is the best for an open source >> project. >> >> The price for using slack is expensive. >> Right now for those that have join spark slack >> $8.75 USD >> 72 members >> 1 month >> $630 USD >> >> https://app.slack.com/plans/T04URTRBZ1R/checkout/form?entry_point=hero_banner_upgrade_cta&s=2 >> >> And they - slack does not have an option for open source projects. >> >> There seems to be some alternatives for open source software. I have not >> tried it. >> Like https://www.rocket.chat/blog/slack-open-source-alternatives >> >> <image.png> >> >> >> rocket chat is open source https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat >> >> tor. 30. mar. 2023 kl. 18:54 skrev Mich Talebzadeh < >> mich.talebza...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Dongjoon >>> >>> to your points if I may >>> >>> - Do you have any reference from other official ASF-related Slack >>> channels? >>> No, I don't have any reference from other official ASF-related Slack >>> channels because I don't think that matters. However, I stand corrected >>> - To be clear, I intentionally didn't refer to any specific mailing list >>> because we didn't set up any rule here yet. >>> fair enough >>> >>> going back to your original point >>> >>> ..There is a concern expressed by ASF board because recent Slack >>> activities created an isolated silo outside of ASF mailing list archive... >>> Well, there are activities on Spark and indeed other open source >>> software everywhere. One way or other they do help getting community >>> (inside the user groups and other) to get interested and involved. Slack >>> happens to be one of them. >>> I am of the opinion that creating such silos is already a reality and we >>> ought to be pragmatic. Unless there is an overriding reason, we should >>> embrace it as slack can co-exist with the other mailing lists and channels >>> like linkedin etc. >>> >>> Hope this clarifies my position >>> >>> Mich Talebzadeh, >>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead >>> Palantir Technologies Limited >>> >>> >>> view my Linkedin profile >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> >>> >>> >>> https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh >>> >>> >>> >>> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk. Any and all responsibility for >>> any loss, damage or destruction of data or any other property which may >>> arise from relying on this email's technical content is explicitly >>> disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for any monetary damages >>> arising from such loss, damage or destruction. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 17:28, Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> To Mich. >>>> - Do you have any reference from other official ASF-related Slack >>>> channels? >>>> - To be clear, I intentionally didn't refer to any specific mailing >>>> list because we didn't set up any rule here yet. >>>> >>>> To Xiao. I understand what you mean. That's the reason why I added >>>> Matei from your side. >>>> > I did not see an objection from the ASF board. >>>> >>>> There is on-going discussion about the communication channels outside >>>> ASF email which is specifically concerning Slack. >>>> Please hold on any official action for this topic. We will know how to >>>> support it seamlessly. >>>> >>>> Dongjoon. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:21 AM Xiao Li <gatorsm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Dongjoon, >>>>> >>>>> The other communities (e.g., Pinot, Druid, Flink) created their own >>>>> Slack workspaces last year. I did not see an objection from the ASF board. >>>>> At the same time, Slack workspaces are very popular and useful in most >>>>> non-ASF open source communities. TBH, we are kind of late. I think we can >>>>> do the same in our community? >>>>> >>>>> We can follow the guide when the ASF has an official process for ASF >>>>> archiving. Since our PMC are the owner of the slack workspace, we can make >>>>> a change based on the policy. WDYT? >>>>> >>>>> Xiao >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月30日周四 09:03写道： >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Xiao and all. >>>>>> >>>>>> (cc Matei) >>>>>> >>>>>> Please hold on the vote. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a concern expressed by ASF board because recent Slack >>>>>> activities created an isolated silo outside of ASF mailing list archive. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to establish a way to embrace it back to ASF archive before >>>>>> starting anything official. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bests, >>>>>> Dongjoon. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:32 PM Xiao Li <gatorsm...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> + @dev@spark.apache.org <dev@spark.apache.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a good idea. The other Apache projects (e.g., Pinot, Druid, >>>>>>> Flink) have created their own dedicated Slack workspaces for faster >>>>>>> communication. We can do the same in Apache Spark. The Slack workspace >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> be maintained by the Apache Spark PMC. I propose to initiate a vote for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> creation of a new Apache Spark Slack workspace. Does that sound good? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Xiao >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月28日周二 07:07写道： >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I created one at slack called pyspark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh, >>>>>>>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead >>>>>>>> Palantir Technologies Limited >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> view my Linkedin profile >>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Disclaimer:* Use it at your own risk. Any and all responsibility >>>>>>>> for any loss, damage or destruction of data or any other property >>>>>>>> which may >>>>>>>> arise from relying on this email's technical content is explicitly >>>>>>>> disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for any monetary >>>>>>>> damages >>>>>>>> arising from such loss, damage or destruction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 03:52, asma zgolli <zgollia...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 good idea, I d like to join as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le mar. 28 mars 2023 à 04:09, Winston Lai <weiruanl...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please let us know when the channel is created. I'd like to join >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank You & Best Regards >>>>>>>>>> Winston Lai >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> *From:* Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2023 9:43:08 AM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* Hyukjin Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* keen <kee...@gmx.net>; u...@spark.apache.org < >>>>>>>>>> u...@spark.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Slack for PySpark users >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 I think this is a great idea! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:24 PM Hyukjin Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, actually I think we should better have a slack channel so >>>>>>>>>> we can easily discuss with users and developers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 03:08, keen <kee...@gmx.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> I really like *Slack *as communication channel for a tech >>>>>>>>>> community. >>>>>>>>>> There is a Slack workspace for *delta lake users* ( >>>>>>>>>> https://go.delta.io/slack) that I enjoy a lot. >>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there is something similar for PySpark users. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If not, would there be anything wrong with creating a new >>>>>>>>>> Slack workspace for PySpark users? (when explicitly mentioning that >>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>> *not* officially part of Apache Spark)? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Asma ZGOLLI >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ph.D. in Big Data - Applied Machine Learning >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> -- >> Bjørn Jørgensen >> Vestre Aspehaug 4 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Vestre+Aspehaug+4?entry=gmail&source=g>, >> 6010 Ålesund >> Norge >> >> +47 480 94 297 >> >
