Thanks everyone for the valuable feedback!

Given the generally positive feedback received, I plan to move forward by
initiating the voting thread. I encourage you to participate in the
upcoming thread.

Warm regards,
Gengliang

On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 12:55 PM Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Splendid. Thanks Gengliang
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> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 18:10, Gengliang Wang <ltn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mich,
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions. I agree that we should avoid confusion with
>> Spark Structured Streaming.
>>
>> So, I'll go with "Structured Logging Framework for Apache Spark". This
>> keeps the standard term "Structured Logging" and distinguishes it from
>> "Structured Streaming" clearly.
>>
>> Thanks for helping shape this!
>>
>> Best,
>> Gengliang
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 12:19 PM Mich Talebzadeh <
>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gengliang,
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking the initiative to improve the Spark logging system.
>>> Transitioning to structured logs seems like a worthy way to enhance the
>>> ability to analyze and troubleshoot Spark jobs and hopefully  the future
>>> integration with cloud logging systems. While "Structured Spark Logging"
>>> sounds good, I was wondering if we could consider an alternative name.
>>> Since we already use "Spark Structured Streaming", there might be a slight
>>> initial confusion with the terminology. I must confess it was my initial
>>> reaction so to speak.
>>>
>>> Here are a few alternative names I came up with if I may
>>>
>>>    - Spark Log Schema Initiative
>>>    - Centralized Logging with Structured Data for Spark
>>>    - Enhanced Spark Logging with Queryable Format
>>>
>>> These options all highlight the key aspects of your proposal namely;
>>> schema, centralized logging and queryability and might be even clearer for
>>> everyone at first glance.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
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>>> *Disclaimer:* The information provided is correct to the best of my
>>> knowledge but of course cannot be guaranteed . It is essential to note
>>> that, as with any advice, quote "one test result is worth one-thousand
>>> expert opinions (Werner
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>Von Braun
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>)".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 at 10:07, Gengliang Wang <ltn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I propose to enhance our logging system by transitioning to structured
>>>> logs. This initiative is designed to tackle the challenges of analyzing
>>>> distributed logs from drivers, workers, and executors by allowing them to
>>>> be queried using a fixed schema. The goal is to improve the informativeness
>>>> and accessibility of logs, making it significantly easier to diagnose
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> Key benefits include:
>>>>
>>>>    - Clarity and queryability of distributed log files.
>>>>    - Continued support for log4j, allowing users to switch back to
>>>>    traditional text logging if preferred.
>>>>
>>>> The improvement will simplify debugging and enhance productivity
>>>> without disrupting existing logging practices. The implementation is
>>>> estimated to take around 3 months.
>>>>
>>>> *SPIP*:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rATVGmFLNVLmtxSpWrEceYm7d-ocgu8ofhryVs4g3XU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> *JIRA*: SPARK-47240 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-47240>
>>>>
>>>> Your comments and feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>

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