I’ll mention that we’re working toward a preview release, even if the details 
are not finalized by the time we sent the report.

> On May 6, 2024, at 10:52 AM, Holden Karau <holden.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I trust Wenchen to manage the preview release effectively but if there are 
> concerns around how to manage a developer preview release lets split that off 
> from the board report discussion.
> 
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:44 AM Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:mich.talebza...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I did some historical digging on this.
>> 
>> Whilst both preview release and RCs are pre-release versions, the main 
>> difference lies in their maturity and readiness for production use. Preview 
>> releases are early versions aimed at gathering feedback, while release 
>> candidates (RCs) are nearly finished versions that undergo final testing and 
>> voting before the official release.
>> 
>> So in our case, we have two options:
>> 
>> Skip mentioning of the Preview and focus on "We are intending to gather 
>> feedback on version 4 by releasing an earlier version to the community for 
>> look and feel feedback, especially focused on APIs
>> Mention Preview in the form. "There will be a Preview release with the aim 
>> of gathering feedback from the community focused on APIs"
>> IMO Preview release does not require a formal vote. Preview releases are 
>> often considered experimental or pre-alpha versions and are not expected to 
>> meet the same level of stability and completeness as release candidates or 
>> final releases.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
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>> Disclaimer: The information provided is correct to the best of my knowledge 
>> but of course cannot be guaranteed . It is essential to note that, as with 
>> any advice, quote "one test result is worth one-thousand expert opinions 
>> (Werner  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>Von Braun 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>)".
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 14:10, Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mich.talebza...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> @Wenchen Fan <mailto:cloud0...@gmail.com> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the update! To clarify, is the vote for approving a specific 
>>> preview build, or is it for moving towards an RC stage? I gather there is a 
>>> distinction between these two?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>>> Technologist | Architect | Data Engineer  | Generative AI | FinCrime
>>> 
>>> London
>>> United Kingdom
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Disclaimer: The information provided is correct to the best of my knowledge 
>>> but of course cannot be guaranteed . It is essential to note that, as with 
>>> any advice, quote "one test result is worth one-thousand expert opinions 
>>> (Werner  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>Von Braun 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>)".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 13:03, Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:cloud0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> The preview release also needs a vote. I'll try my best to cut the RC on 
>>>> Monday, but the actual release may take some time. Hopefully, we can get 
>>>> it out this week but if the vote fails, it will take longer as we need 
>>>> more RCs.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:22 AM Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:dongjoon.h...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> +1 for Holden's comment. Yes, it would be great to mention `it` as 
>>>>> "soon". 
>>>>> (If Wenchen release it on Monday, we can simply mention the release)
>>>>> 
>>>>> In addition, Apache Spark PMC received an official notice from ASF Infra 
>>>>> team.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/rgy1cg17tkd3yox7qfq87ht12sqclkbg
>>>>> > [NOTICE] Apache Spark's GitHub Actions usage exceeds allowances for ASF 
>>>>> > projects
>>>>> 
>>>>> To track and comply with the new ASF Infra Policy as much as possible, we 
>>>>> opened a blocker-level JIRA issue and have been working on it.
>>>>> - https://infra.apache.org/github-actions-policy.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please include a sentence that Apache Spark PMC is working on under the 
>>>>> following umbrella JIRA issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-48094
>>>>> > Reduce GitHub Action usage according to ASF project allowance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:45 PM Holden Karau <holden.ka...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:holden.ka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> Do we want to include that we’re planning on having a preview release of 
>>>>>> Spark 4 so folks can see the APIs “soon”?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:24 PM Matei Zaharia <matei.zaha...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:matei.zaha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> It’s time for our quarterly ASF board report on Apache Spark this 
>>>>>>> Wednesday. Here’s a draft, feel free to suggest changes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Description:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache Spark is a fast and general purpose engine for large-scale data 
>>>>>>> processing. It offers high-level APIs in Java, Scala, Python, R and SQL 
>>>>>>> as well as a rich set of libraries including stream processing, machine 
>>>>>>> learning, and graph analytics.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Issues for the board:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - None
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Project status:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - We made two patch releases: Spark 3.5.1 on February 28, 2024, and 
>>>>>>> Spark 3.4.2 on April 18, 2024.
>>>>>>> - The votes on "SPIP: Structured Logging Framework for Apache Spark" 
>>>>>>> and "Pure Python Package in PyPI (Spark Connect)" have passed.
>>>>>>> - The votes for two behavior changes have passed: "SPARK-44444: Use 
>>>>>>> ANSI SQL mode by default" and "SPARK-46122: Set 
>>>>>>> spark.sql.legacy.createHiveTableByDefault to false".
>>>>>>> - The community decided that upcoming Spark 4.0 release will drop 
>>>>>>> support for Python 3.8.
>>>>>>> - We started a discussion about the definition of behavior changes that 
>>>>>>> is critical for version upgrades and user experience.
>>>>>>> - We've opened a dedicated repository for the Spark Kubernetes Operator 
>>>>>>> at https://github.com/apache/spark-kubernetes-operator. We added a new 
>>>>>>> version in Apache Spark JIRA for versioning of the Spark operator based 
>>>>>>> on a vote result.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trademarks:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - No changes since the last report.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Latest releases:
>>>>>>> - Spark 3.4.3 was released on April 18, 2024
>>>>>>> - Spark 3.5.1 was released on February 28, 2024
>>>>>>> - Spark 3.3.4 was released on December 16, 2023
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Committers and PMC:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - The latest committer was added on Oct 2nd, 2023 (Jiaan Geng).
>>>>>>> - The latest PMC members were added on Oct 2nd, 2023 (Yuanjian Li and 
>>>>>>> Yikun Jiang).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ====================
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