Dne 29. 01. 19 v 20:31 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 05:42, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org > <mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > >This feels more like system-wide change… > > >Especially since you say that some extra packages will be retired. > > > > A very limited set. The distro as a whole should not be impacted > by this. > > > > The retired packages are legacy cruft. And the important stuff that > > needs to be updated needs some motivation like this. > > "This change needs to motivate other important stuff that we don't > have > direct control over to change" seems like *exactly* the reason we > ask for > system-wide changes to be filed earlier. > > > > This is like the 4th system wide change this release which is coming > in as a Self-Contained. Each time the developer thinks it is > self-contained because it is just one little thing, but on regards it > turns into being a system-wide change. However because the two > deadlines are one after the other, it means that this change is pushed > out another 6 months where the 3-4 weeks between System-Wide and > Self-Contained doesn't seem very long. Can we either: > > 1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines to be the > same date and allow FESCO/etc determine if the proposal needs to be > moved to SW or SC then?
This split between SW and SC was artificial since the beginning and I'd be happy if we dropped it. If we keep this division, I am for one deadline for both. Vít > 2) Move Self-Contained deadline BEFORE System-Wide so that if it is > really System-Wide move it to the correct category? > 3) Add a re-evaluate deadline after the first two? This allows us to > get an idea that "oh wait this is going to really mess things up and > we need to push this out one release?" or other items > > At the moment, I think pushing out removal of yum3 for Fedora31 > doesn't make sense if there isn't enough python2 for it to be useful > in Fedora30. However I also think this is a system-wide change because > a lot of tools need time to test that they REALLY do support not > having yum3 in them. > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
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