On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:08:14PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 31. 01. 19 16:32, Michal Domonkos wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:46 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>Based on the entire discussion so far, here's my proposal:
> >>
> >>   - we change this to a system wide change
> >>   - we move it to Fedora 31
> >>   - we retire the packages from rawhide as soon as f30 is branched 
> >> regardless of
> >>the dependent packages
> >>   - packages with broken deps / FTBFS due to this will be retired if not 
> >> fixed
> >>by beta freeze
> >>
> >>Contingency mechanism:
> >>
> >>   - if some process (releng or similar) needs the packages in order to ship
> >>Fedora 31, the packages are added into a designated copr repo maintained by 
> >>the
> >>person/team responsible for the tool that needs yum (or other packages 
> >>retired)
> >>
> >>   - if the above is not possible and the packages are indeed needed in the
> >>actual f31 repos, packages are unretired but the person/team responsible 
> >>for the
> >>tool that needs yum maintains them as long as they need them and retires 
> >>them
> >>once that is no longer true
> >
> >+1
> >
> >As an alternative solution, based on a discussion with Neal Gompa
> >today on IRC, I propose the following:
> >
> >   - we remove python-urlgrabber from the original change proposal
> >(i.e. keeping it in F30)
> >   - we proceed with the retirement of the rest of the YUM stack in F30
> >   - we make sure the kojid PR[1] is merged in time for F30
> >
> >This is based on the following two facts:
> >
> >   - python-urlgrabber seems to be the last component of the YUM stack
> >that turns this proposal into a "system-wide" change, due to a number
> >of infra bits that require it (sigul, koji-containerbuild, osc or
> >imagefactory).   Therefore, if we just postpone the removal of
> >python-urlgrabber to F31 and merge that kojid PR, we could perhaps
> >agree on re-qualifying the change as "self-contained" (plus, there's
> >also the possibility of porting[2] python-urlgrabber to Python 3, but
> >that's for a separate discussion)
> >   - the kojid PR[1] is also in-line with another F30 change[3], so
> >there should be enough incentive to have it merged
> >
> >Before I go ahead and edit the proposal: Does this variant make sense to you?
> 
> It does to me. But well, I've been called a Python 2 deletionist
> before, so not sure if I'm not biased :)

FWIW, I like this "alternative proposal" better too.

Zbyszek
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