On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 10:50 PM Maxwell G via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> On Thu, 2021-09-16 at 15:17 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ExcludeFromWeakAutodetect
> >
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > exclude_from_weak_autodetect enables autodetection of unmet weak
> > dependencies (Recommends or Supplements) of installed packages and
> > blocks installation of packages satisfying already unmet dependencies.
> > In other words: When you don't have the recommended package installed,
> > it won't be automatically installed with future upgrades of the
> > recommending package.
>
> I am not sure if this was intended, but this change has broken rich
> weak dependencies when both packages are not installed as part of the
> same transaction.
>
> In my yt-dlp package's specfile[1], I have three subpackages for shell
> completions: `yt-dlp-bash-completion`, `yt-dlp-zsh-completion`, and
> `yt-dlp-fish-completion. Here is the `bash-completion` block:
>
> ``` spec
> %package bash-completion
> Summary:        Bash completion for %{name}
> Requires:       %{name} = %{version}
> Requires:       bash-completion
> Supplements:    (%{name} and bash-completion)
> BuildArch:      noarch
> ```
>
> The intended effect is for the shell completions to be installed at the
> time `yt-dlp` itself is installed if the respective shell package
> (`bash-completion`, `zsh` or `fish`) is already present while still
> allowing users to opt out. However, now this does not work; dnf will
> only install the completions if both `yt-dlp` and the shell package are
> installed as part of the same transaction. I can confirm that this is
> caused by this change, because adding `--
> setopt=exclude_from_weak_autodetect=false` fixes the problem. Replacing
> `Supplements` with forward facing boolean `Requires` did not work
> either.
>
> ``` spec
> Recommends:     (%{name}-bash-completion if bash-completion)
> Recommends:     (%{name}-zsh-completion if zsh)
> Recommends:     (%{name}-fish-completion if fish)
> ```
>
> While I agree that {rich,} weak dependencies should not be reinstalled
> as part of updates, I do believe that they should be installed if one
> of the packages is being installed for the first time.
>
> I also think we should consider implementing better guidelines for
> shell completions in Fedora. I believe that shell completions should be
> split into subpackages and that these subpackages should depend on the
> shells themselves or a `-filesystem` package that actually own the
> directories. Right now, directory ownership is kind of a mess. At least
> on my system, there are several packages that own /usr/share/bash-
> completion, /usr/share/zsh/vendor-completions, /usr/share/zsh/site-
> functions, and /usr/share/fish/vendor_completions.d/. We can also use
> this oppurtunity to create macros for each of these directories.
>
> Management of shell completion packages was discussed further in my
> package review ticket [2].
>
> I am relatively new to Fedora, so please correct me if I got anything
> wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Maxwell
>
> [1]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/yt-dlp/blob/rawhide/f/yt-dlp.spec
> [2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012522
>
>
Hey Maxwell,
can you please file a new bug in bugzilla against dnf and copy the problem
description into it? Then make your new bug block bug 2013327 [1], which is
the tracker for this Change. This way you'll make sure that this problem
doesn't get lost and the maintainer has to deal with it before the
appropriate Change deadline. Thanks!

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2013327
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