On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:45:21PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/09/2012 04:25 PM, drago01 wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > >>On 09/06/12 19:34, drago01 wrote: > >>>>Is that actually true though? > >>>>> > >>>>>If Fedora does not implement some form of Secure Boot support, 100% of > >>>>>Fedora users will still be able to install Fedora on new machines, after > >>>>>they disable Secure Boot, if their computer even has it at all (and > >>>>>personally, I think the majority of Fedora users will simply buy > >>>>>hardware which does not have Secure Boot). I know I would. > >>>No because some users in don't know what a firmware is and can't/don't > >>>want to fiddle with it. > >> > >>Except it won't be that hard. > > > >For people like you. > > Excuse me, but "people like him" used to be our (Fedora's) target > audience. Have a read at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base
> For voluntary Linux consumers who are computer-friendly and likely > collaborators to the project, a mere BIOS change *is* trivial. If > they are not able to do even that, which level of contributions to > you expect back? Take another look at how that page defines "computer-friendly." It's not a very high bar. "Computer-friendly" is defined as a user that can download our distribution and install it, as long as we can give *clear instructions* on how to do so, without requiring them to troubleshoot problems or figure out how secure boot works. Right now, we're missing the "clear instructions" part. I'm not sure I understand this argument anyway. You do realize that "turn it off before you install" is the same as "turn it off before you install a modified kernel," right? Except that you aren't forced to do so just to use Linux at all? -- Scott Schmit
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